From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
galshalom@nvidia.com, Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, maorg@nvidia.com, patches@lists.linux.dev,
tdave@nvidia.com, Tony Zhu <tony.zhu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/11] PCI: Add pci_bus_isolation()
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 16:17:27 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250703161727.09316904.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250703153030.GA1322329@nvidia.com>
On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 12:30:30 -0300
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 01:28:59PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > +enum pci_bus_isolation pci_bus_isolated(struct pci_bus *bus)
> > > +{
> > > + struct pci_dev *bridge = bus->self;
> > > + int type;
> > > +
> > > + /* Consider virtual busses isolated */
> > > + if (!bridge)
> > > + return PCIE_ISOLATED;
> > > + if (pci_is_root_bus(bus))
> > > + return PCIE_ISOLATED;
> >
> > How do we know the root bus isn't conventional?
>
> If I read this right this is dead code..
>
> /*
> * Returns true if the PCI bus is root (behind host-PCI bridge),
> * false otherwise
> *
> * Some code assumes that "bus->self == NULL" means that bus is a root bus.
> * This is incorrect because "virtual" buses added for SR-IOV (via
> * virtfn_add_bus()) have "bus->self == NULL" but are not root buses.
> */
> static inline bool pci_is_root_bus(struct pci_bus *pbus)
> {
> return !(pbus->parent);
>
> Looking at the call chain of pci_alloc_bus():
> pci_alloc_child_bus() - Parent bus may not be NULL
> pci_add_new_bus() - All callers pass !NULL bus
> pci_register_host_bridge() - Sets self and parent to NULL
>
> Thus if pci_is_root() == true implies bus->self == NULL so we can't
> get here.
Yep, seems correct.
> So I will change it to be like:
>
> /*
> * This bus was created by pci_register_host_bridge(). There is nothing
> * upstream of this, assume it contains the TA and that the root complex
> * does not allow P2P without going through the IOMMU.
> */
> if (pci_is_root_bus(bus))
> return PCIE_ISOLATED;
Ok, but did we sidestep the question of whether the root bus can be
conventional?
>
> /*
> * Sometimes SRIOV VFs can have a "virtual" bus if the SRIOV RID's
> * extend past the bus numbers of the parent. The spec says that SRIOV
> * VFs and PFs should act the same as functions in a MFD. MFD isolation
> * is handled outside this function.
> */
> if (!bridge)
> return PCIE_ISOLATED;
>
> And now it seems we never took care with SRIOV, along with the PF
> every SRIOV VF needs to have its ACS checked as though it was a MFD..
There's actually evidence that we did take care to make sure VFs never
flag themselves as multifunction in order to avoid the multifunction
ACS tests. I think we'd see lots of devices suddenly unusable for one
of their intended use cases if we grouped VFs that don't expose an ACS
capability. Also VFs from multiple PFs exist on the same virtual bus,
so I imagine if the PF supports ACS but the VF doesn't, you'd end up
with multiple isolation domains on the same bus. Thus, we've so far
take the approach that "surely the hw vendor intended these to be used
independently", and only considered the isolation upstream from the VFs.
Thanks,
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-03 22:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-30 22:28 [PATCH 00/11] Fix incorrect iommu_groups with PCIe switches Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 01/11] PCI: Move REQ_ACS_FLAGS into pci_regs.h as PCI_ACS_ISOLATED Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 02/11] PCI: Add pci_bus_isolation() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-01 19:28 ` Alex Williamson
2025-07-02 1:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-03 15:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-03 22:17 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2025-07-03 23:08 ` Alex Williamson
2025-07-03 23:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-03 23:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 03/11] iommu: Compute iommu_groups properly for PCIe switches Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-01 19:29 ` Alex Williamson
2025-07-02 1:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-17 19:25 ` Donald Dutile
2025-07-17 20:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-18 2:31 ` Donald Dutile
2025-07-18 13:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 04/11] iommu: Organize iommu_group by member size Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 05/11] PCI: Add pci_reachable_set() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 06/11] iommu: Use pci_reachable_set() in pci_device_group() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 07/11] iommu: Validate that pci_for_each_dma_alias() matches the groups Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 08/11] PCI: Add the ACS Enhanced Capability definitions Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 09/11] PCI: Enable ACS Enhanced bits for enable_acs and config_acs Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 10/11] PCI: Check ACS DSP/USP redirect bits in pci_enable_pasid() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 11/11] PCI: Check ACS Extended flags for pci_bus_isolated() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-01 21:48 ` [PATCH 00/11] Fix incorrect iommu_groups with PCIe switches Alex Williamson
2025-07-02 1:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 0:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-11 14:55 ` Alex Williamson
2025-07-11 16:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-08 20:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-11 15:40 ` Alex Williamson
2025-07-11 16:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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