From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
Donald Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>,
galshalom@nvidia.com, Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, maorg@nvidia.com, patches@lists.linux.dev,
tdave@nvidia.com, Tony Zhu <tony.zhu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 10/11] PCI: Check ACS DSP/USP redirect bits in pci_enable_pasid()
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 16:43:50 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250909214350.GA1509037@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10-v3-8827cc7fc4e0+23f-pcie_switch_groups_jgg@nvidia.com>
On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 03:06:25PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> Switches ignore the PASID when routing TLPs. This means the path from the
> PASID issuing end point to the IOMMU must be direct with no possibility
> for another device to claim the addresses.
>
> This is done using ACS flags and pci_enable_pasid() checks for this.
>
> The new ACS Enhanced bits clarify some undefined behaviors in the spec
> around what P2P Request Redirect means.
>
> Linux has long assumed that PCI_ACS_RR implies PCI_ACS_DSP_MT_RR |
> PCI_ACS_USP_MT_RR | PCI_ACS_UNCLAIMED_RR.
>
> If the device supports ACS Enhanced then use the information it reports to
> determine if PASID SVA is supported or not.
>
> PCI_ACS_DSP_MT_RR: Prevents Downstream Port BAR's from claiming upstream
> flowing transactions
>
> PCI_ACS_USP_MT_RR: Prevents Upstream Port BAR's from claiming upstream
> flowing transactions
s/BAR's/BARs/ (no possession here)
> PCI_ACS_UNCLAIMED_RR: Prevents a hole in the USP bridge window compared
> to all the DSP bridge windows from generating a
> error.
>
> Each of these cases would poke a hole in the PASID address space which is
> not permitted.
>
> Enhance the comments around pci_acs_flags_enabled() to better explain the
> reasoning for its logic. Continue to take the approach of assuming the
> device is doing the "right ACS" if it does not explicitly declare
> otherwise.
>
> Fixes: 201007ef707a ("PCI: Enable PASID only when ACS RR & UF enabled on upstream path")
> Signed-off-by: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> ---
> drivers/pci/ats.c | 4 +++-
> drivers/pci/pci.c | 54 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
> 2 files changed, 50 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/ats.c b/drivers/pci/ats.c
> index ec6c8dbdc5e9c9..00603c2c4ff0ea 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/ats.c
> +++ b/drivers/pci/ats.c
> @@ -416,7 +416,9 @@ int pci_enable_pasid(struct pci_dev *pdev, int features)
> if (!pasid)
> return -EINVAL;
>
> - if (!pci_acs_path_enabled(pdev, NULL, PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_UF))
> + if (!pci_acs_path_enabled(pdev, NULL,
> + PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_UF | PCI_ACS_USP_MT_RR |
> + PCI_ACS_DSP_MT_RR | PCI_ACS_UNCLAIMED_RR))
> return -EINVAL;
>
> pci_read_config_word(pdev, pasid + PCI_PASID_CAP, &supported);
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/pci.c b/drivers/pci/pci.c
> index 983f71211f0055..620b7f79093854 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/pci.c
> +++ b/drivers/pci/pci.c
> @@ -3606,6 +3606,52 @@ void pci_configure_ari(struct pci_dev *dev)
> }
> }
>
> +
> +/*
> + * The spec is not clear what it means if the capability bit is 0. One view is
> + * that the device acts as though the ctrl bit is zero, another view is the
> + * device behavior is undefined.
> + *
> + * Historically Linux has taken the position that the capability bit as 0 means
> + * the device supports the most favorable interpretation of the spec - ie that
> + * things like P2P RR are always on. As this is security sensitive we expect
> + * devices that do not follow this rule to be quirked.
Interpreting a 0 Capability bit, i.e., per spec "the component does
not implement the feature", as "the component behaves as though the
feature is always enabled" sounds like a stretch to me.
The point of ACS is to prevent things that are normally allowed, so if
a component doesn't implement an ACS feature, my first guess would be
that the component doesn't prevent the relevant behavior.
Sounds like a mess and might be worth an ECR to clarify the spec.
"Most favorable interpretation of the spec" feels a little ambiguous
to me since it assumes something about what we consider "favorable".
> + * ACS Enhanced eliminated undefined areas of the spec around MMIO in root ports
> + * and switch ports. If those ports have no MMIO then it is not relavent.
> + * PCI_ACS_UNCLAIMED_RR eliminates the undefined area around an upstream switch
> + * window that is not fully decoded by the downstream windows.
s/relavent/relevant/
> + * This takes the same approach with ACS Enhanced, if the device does not
> + * support it then we assume the ACS P2P RR has all the enhanced behaviors too.
> + *
> + * Due to ACS Enhanced bits being force set to 0 by older Linux kernels, and
> + * those values would break old kernels on the edge cases they cover, the only
> + * compatible thing for a new device to implement is ACS Enhanced supported with
> + * the control bits (except PCI_ACS_IORB) wired to follow ACS_RR.
> + */
> +static u16 pci_acs_ctrl_mask(struct pci_dev *pdev, u16 hw_cap)
> +{
> + /*
> + * Egress Control enables use of the Egress Control Vector which is not
> + * present without the cap.
> + */
> + u16 mask = PCI_ACS_EC;
> +
> + mask = hw_cap & (PCI_ACS_SV | PCI_ACS_TB | PCI_ACS_RR |
> + PCI_ACS_CR | PCI_ACS_UF | PCI_ACS_DT);
> +
> + /*
> + * If ACS Enhanced is supported the device reports what it is doing
> + * through these bits which may not be settable.
> + */
> + if (hw_cap & PCI_ACS_ENHANCED)
> + mask |= PCI_ACS_IORB | PCI_ACS_DSP_MT_RB | PCI_ACS_DSP_MT_RR |
> + PCI_ACS_USP_MT_RB | PCI_ACS_USP_MT_RR |
> + PCI_ACS_UNCLAIMED_RR;
> + return mask;
> +}
> +
> static bool pci_acs_flags_enabled(struct pci_dev *pdev, u16 acs_flags)
> {
> int pos;
> @@ -3615,15 +3661,9 @@ static bool pci_acs_flags_enabled(struct pci_dev *pdev, u16 acs_flags)
> if (!pos)
> return false;
>
> - /*
> - * Except for egress control, capabilities are either required
> - * or only required if controllable. Features missing from the
> - * capability field can therefore be assumed as hard-wired enabled.
> - */
> pci_read_config_word(pdev, pos + PCI_ACS_CAP, &cap);
> - acs_flags &= (cap | PCI_ACS_EC);
> -
> pci_read_config_word(pdev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &ctrl);
> + acs_flags &= pci_acs_ctrl_mask(pdev, cap);
> return (ctrl & acs_flags) == acs_flags;
> }
>
> --
> 2.43.0
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-09 21:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-05 18:06 [PATCH v3 00/11] Fix incorrect iommu_groups with PCIe ACS Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-05 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] PCI: Move REQ_ACS_FLAGS into pci_regs.h as PCI_ACS_ISOLATED Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 4:08 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-05 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] PCI: Add pci_bus_isolated() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 4:09 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-09 19:54 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-09 21:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-05 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] iommu: Compute iommu_groups properly for PCIe switches Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 4:14 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-09 12:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 19:33 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-09 20:27 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-09 21:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-05 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] iommu: Organize iommu_group by member size Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 4:16 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-05 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] PCI: Add pci_reachable_set() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 21:03 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-10 16:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-11 19:56 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-15 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-15 14:32 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-05 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] iommu: Compute iommu_groups properly for PCIe MFDs Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 4:57 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-09 13:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 19:55 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-09 21:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-09 23:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-10 1:59 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-10 17:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-05 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] iommu: Validate that pci_for_each_dma_alias() matches the groups Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 5:00 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-09 15:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 19:58 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-05 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] PCI: Add the ACS Enhanced Capability definitions Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 5:01 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-05 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] PCI: Enable ACS Enhanced bits for enable_acs and config_acs Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 5:01 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-05 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] PCI: Check ACS DSP/USP redirect bits in pci_enable_pasid() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 5:02 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-09 21:43 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2025-09-10 17:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-11 19:50 ` Donald Dutile
2026-01-20 18:08 ` Keith Busch
2025-09-05 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] PCI: Check ACS Extended flags for pci_bus_isolated() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 5:04 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-15 9:41 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Fix incorrect iommu_groups with PCIe ACS Cédric Le Goater
2025-09-22 22:39 ` Alex Williamson
2025-09-23 1:44 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-23 2:06 ` Alex Williamson
2025-09-23 2:42 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-23 22:23 ` Alex Williamson
2025-09-30 15:23 ` Donald Dutile
2025-09-30 16:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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