From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
aik@amd.com, lukas@wunner.de, Samuel Ortiz <sameo@rivosinc.com>,
Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 11/38] KVM: arm64: CCA: register host tsm platform device
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 10:59:22 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251010135922.GC3833649@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3ec55da-822a-4098-b030-4d76825f358e@arm.com>
On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 07:10:58AM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote:
> > Yes, use faux_device if you need/want a struct device to represent
> > something in the tree and it does NOT have any real platform resources
> > behind it. That's explicitly what it was designed for.
>
> Right, but this code is intended to trigger the kmod/userspace module
> loader.
Faux devices are not intended to be bound, it says so right on the label:
* A "simple" faux bus that allows devices to be created and added
* automatically to it. This is to be used whenever you need to create a
* device that is not associated with any "real" system resources, and do
* not want to have to deal with a bus/driver binding logic. It is
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
* intended to be very simple, with only a create and a destroy function
* available.
auxiliary_device is quite similar to faux except it is intended to be
bound to drivers, supports module autoloading and so on.
What you have here is the platform firmware provides the ARM SMC
(Secure Monitor Call Calling Convention) interface which is a generic
function call multiplexer between the OS and ARM firmware.
Then we have things like the TSM subsystem that want to load a driver
to use calls over SMC if the underlying platform firmware supports the
RSI group of SMC APIs. You'd have a TSM subsystem driver that uses the
RSI call group over SMC that autobinds when the RSI call group is
detected when the SMC is first discovered.
So you could use auxiliary_device, you'd consider SMC itself to be the
shared HW block and all the auxiliary drivers are per-subsystem
aspects of that shared SMC interface. It is not a terrible fit for
what it was intended for at least.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-10 13:59 UTC|newest]
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2025-07-28 13:51 [RFC PATCH v1 00/38] ARM CCA Device Assignment support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/38] tsm: Add tsm_bind/unbind helpers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/38] tsm: Move tsm core outside the host directory Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/38] tsm: Move dsm_dev from pci_tdi to pci_tsm Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-08-04 21:52 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-08-05 9:24 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/38] tsm: Support DMA Allocation from private memory Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 14:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-29 8:23 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-29 14:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30 10:09 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-07-31 12:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-31 13:48 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-07-31 16:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-01 9:30 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-08-01 14:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-02 8:44 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-02 13:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-04 6:58 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-05 15:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 10:22 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-05 16:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-04 21:54 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-15 8:36 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-16 4:15 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-09-16 8:16 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/38] tsm: Don't overload connect Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-08-04 22:00 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/38] iommufd: Add and option to request for bar mapping with IORESOURCE_EXCLUSIVE Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 14:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-29 8:28 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-29 14:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30 6:55 ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-31 12:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 2:26 ` Xu Yilun
2025-08-05 16:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30 6:43 ` Xu Yilun
2025-08-06 21:18 ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/38] iommufd/viommu: Add support to associate viommu with kvm instance Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 14:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-29 8:30 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-29 16:26 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-29 23:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/38] iommufd/tsm: Add tsm_op iommufd ioctls Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-29 16:34 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-02 9:03 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 22:25 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/38] iommufd/vdevice: Add TSM Guest request uAPI Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-08-04 22:03 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/38] iommufd/vdevice: Add TSM map ioctl Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 14:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-29 8:37 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-29 14:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-04 2:32 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-04 8:28 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-05 1:29 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-05 15:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/38] KVM: arm64: CCA: register host tsm platform device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-29 17:10 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-29 23:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30 8:42 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-30 10:38 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-30 12:23 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-30 13:07 ` Greg KH
2025-10-10 12:10 ` Jeremy Linton
2025-10-10 12:38 ` Greg KH
2025-10-10 15:14 ` Jeremy Linton
2025-10-10 13:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-10-10 15:28 ` Jeremy Linton
2025-10-10 15:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-10 15:37 ` Greg KH
2025-10-10 15:50 ` Jeremy Linton
2025-10-10 18:44 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-10 22:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-13 20:42 ` Jeremy Linton
2025-10-15 9:52 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-10-15 9:58 ` Greg KH
2025-10-15 11:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-15 11:57 ` Greg KH
2025-10-15 12:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-15 12:37 ` Greg KH
2025-10-15 15:19 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-15 16:03 ` Greg KH
2025-10-15 16:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-31 12:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-31 13:22 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-31 16:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-01 8:31 ` Greg KH
2025-08-02 0:54 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-09 7:17 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/38] coco: host: arm64: CCA host platform device driver Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-29 17:22 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-29 23:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30 10:28 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-31 12:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30 8:58 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-30 10:25 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/38] coco: host: arm64: Create a PDEV with rmm Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 12:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-02 10:54 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-31 11:47 ` Arto Merilainen
2025-08-02 10:57 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 22:28 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/38] coco: host: arm64: Device communication support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 13:52 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-31 12:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-04 4:17 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 22:29 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/38] coco: host: arm64: Stop and destroy the physical device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 13:57 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04 4:22 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/38] X.509: Make certificate parser public Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/38] X.509: Parse Subject Alternative Name in certificates Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/38] X.509: Move certificate length retrieval into new helper Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-08-04 22:27 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 19/38] coco: host: arm64: set_pubkey support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:08 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04 4:29 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 22:26 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 20/38] coco: host: arm64: Add support for creating a virtual device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:12 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 21/38] coco: host: arm64: Add support for virtual device communication Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:13 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04 4:45 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 22/38] coco: host: arm64: Stop and destroy virtual device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:15 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 23/38] coco: guest: arm64: Update arm CCA guest driver Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:22 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-31 12:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-31 13:54 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 24/38] arm64: CCA: Register guest tsm callback Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:26 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04 4:50 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 25/38] cca: guest: arm64: Realm device lock support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:32 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 26/38] KVM: arm64: Add exit handler related to device assignment Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:35 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 27/38] coco: host: arm64: add RSI_RDEV_GET_INSTANCE_ID related exit handler Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 28/38] coco: host: arm64: Add support for device communication " Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 29/38] coco: guest: arm64: Add support for collecting interface reports Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 30/38] coco: host: arm64: Add support for realm host interface (RHI) Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:43 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 31/38] coco: guest: arm64: Add support for fetching interface report and certificate chain from host Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:46 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 32/38] coco: guest: arm64: Add support for guest initiated TDI bind/unbind Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:51 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04 22:28 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 33/38] KVM: arm64: CCA: handle dev mem map/unmap Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 34/38] coco: guest: arm64: Validate mmio range found in the interface report Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 15:06 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-31 11:39 ` Arto Merilainen
2025-07-31 16:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-04 6:37 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 8:27 ` Arto Merilainen
2025-09-10 5:47 ` Arto Merilainen
2025-09-10 14:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-11 5:33 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-09-11 8:31 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-09-11 13:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-11 17:47 ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-04 22:31 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 35/38] coco: guest: arm64: Add Realm device start and stop support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-31 10:40 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04 22:27 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 36/38] KVM: arm64: CCA: enable DA in realm create parameters Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-08-04 22:31 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 37/38] coco: guest: arm64: Add support for fetching device measurements Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-31 10:16 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04 22:27 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 38/38] coco: guest: arm64: Add support for fetching device info Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-31 10:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04 6:48 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 10:23 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-08 23:37 ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-30 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/38] ARM CCA Device Assignment support Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-01 2:07 ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-01 15:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-01 21:19 ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-02 14:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-02 23:50 ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-03 22:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 5:07 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-05 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 18:27 ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-05 18:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2025-08-05 19:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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