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From: Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, Dhruva Gole <d-gole@ti.com>,
	Frank Li <Frank.Li@nxp.com>, Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zhang Qilong <zhangqilong3@huawei.com>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/3] PM: runtime: Wrapper macros for usage counter guards
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 11:26:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251113112610.000071df@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0i0U=BYFH+QmeVjSpcyrVhVR0zjke3Vve3wxnpNzcDcoQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 22:38:14 +0100
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 10:27 PM <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:  
> > > On Wednesday, November 12, 2025 7:39:41 AM CET Dhruva Gole wrote:  
> > > > On Nov 07, 2025 at 19:35:09 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:  
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > The runtime PM usage counter guards introduced recently:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/6196611.lOV4Wx5bFT@rafael.j.wysocki/
> > > > >
> > > > > and then fixed:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/5943878.DvuYhMxLoT@rafael.j.wysocki/
> > > > >
> > > > > should generally work, but using them feels sort of arcane and cryptic
> > > > > even though the underlying concept is relatively straightforward.
> > > > >
> > > > > For this reason, runtime PM wrapper macros around ACQUIRE() and
> > > > > ACQUIRE_ERR() involving the new guards are introduced in this series
> > > > > (patch [1/3]) and then used in the code already using the guards (patches
> > > > > [2/3] and [3/3]) to make it look more straightforward.  
> > > >
> > > > The patches look okay to me,
> > > > Reviewed-by: Dhruva Gole <d-gole@ti.com>  
> > >
> > > Thank you and Jonathan for the tags, but since Frank is not convinced, let me
> > > bounce one more idea off all of you.
> > >
> > > Namely, I think that Frank has a point when he wonders if PM_RUNTIME_ACQUIRE_ERR
> > > hides too much information and I agree with Jonathan that may be misunderstood,
> > > so what about defining the wrapper macros so they don't hide the guard variable
> > > name, like in the patch below?  
> >
> > I had been reluctant about offering an enthusiastic tag on this series
> > given that information hiding, but with this change:
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> > However, I prefer that the scope variable declaration vs usage
> > (reference) cases should maintain visual separation with an operator,
> > i.e.:
> >
> >         PM_RUNTIME_ACQUIRE(dev, pm);
> >         if (PM_RUNTIME_ACQUIRE_ERR(&pm))
> >                 return -ENXIO;
> >
> > Otherwise we have a case of different flavors of *_ACQUIRE_ERR
> > implementing various styles. I initially looked at hiding the '&':
> >
> > http://lore.kernel.org/681ea7d5ea04b_2a2bb100cf@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch
> >
> > ...but it grew on me precisely because it provides a clue about how this
> > magic operates.  
> 
> Fair enough.
> 
> I'll resend the series with this change then.
This new option is much nicer and not too verbose.

> 
> Thank you!
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-13 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-07 18:35 [PATCH v1 0/3] PM: runtime: Wrapper macros for usage counter guards Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-11-07 18:39 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] PM: runtime: Wrapper macros for ACQUIRE()/ACQUIRE_ERR() Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-11-10 16:06   ` Frank Li
2025-11-07 18:40 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] PCI/sysfs: Use PM_RUNTIME_ACQUIRE()/PM_RUNTIME_ACQUIRE_ERR Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-11-07 18:41 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] ACPI: TAD: " Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-11-10 12:06 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] PM: runtime: Wrapper macros for usage counter guards Jonathan Cameron
2025-11-12  6:39 ` Dhruva Gole
2025-11-12 19:44   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-11-12 21:27     ` dan.j.williams
2025-11-12 21:38       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-11-13 11:26         ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2025-11-13 11:35       ` Dhruva Gole

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