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* [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS suspend skip
@ 2026-03-17  6:12 Richard Zhu
  2026-03-17 17:23 ` Bjorn Helgaas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Richard Zhu @ 2026-03-17  6:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: frank.li, jingoohan1, l.stach, lpieralisi, kwilczynski, mani,
	robh, bhelgaas, s.hauer, kernel, festevam
  Cc: linux-pci, linux-arm-kernel, imx, linux-kernel, Richard Zhu,
	stable

Add a force_suspend flag to allow platform drivers to force the PCIe
link into L2 state during suspend, even when L1SS (ASPM L1 Sub-States)
is enabled.

By default, the DesignWare PCIe host controller skips L2 suspend when
L1SS is supported to meet low resume latency requirements for devices
like NVMe. However, some platforms like i.MX PCIe need to enter L2 state
for proper power management regardless of L1SS support.

Enable force_suspend for i.MX PCIe to ensure the link enters L2 during
system suspend.

Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
Fixes: 4774faf854f5 ("PCI: dwc: Implement generic suspend/resume functionality")
Signed-off-by: Richard Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
---
 drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c             | 1 +
 drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c | 4 +++-
 drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h      | 1 +
 3 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
index 81a7093494c8..7902d39185a5 100644
--- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
+++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
@@ -1831,6 +1831,7 @@ static int imx_pcie_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
 		if (imx_check_flag(imx_pcie, IMX_PCIE_FLAG_SKIP_L23_READY))
 			pci->pp.skip_l23_ready = true;
 		pci->pp.use_atu_msg = true;
+		pci->pp.force_l2_suspend = true;
 		ret = dw_pcie_host_init(&pci->pp);
 		if (ret < 0)
 			return ret;
diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
index a74339982c24..720154fd4ff0 100644
--- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
+++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
@@ -1229,7 +1229,9 @@ int dw_pcie_suspend_noirq(struct dw_pcie *pci)
 	 * If L1SS is supported, then do not put the link into L2 as some
 	 * devices such as NVMe expect low resume latency.
 	 */
-	if (dw_pcie_readw_dbi(pci, offset + PCI_EXP_LNKCTL) & PCI_EXP_LNKCTL_ASPM_L1)
+	if (!pci->pp.force_l2_suspend &&
+	    (dw_pcie_readw_dbi(pci, offset + PCI_EXP_LNKCTL) &
+	     PCI_EXP_LNKCTL_ASPM_L1))
 		return 0;
 
 	if (pci->pp.ops->pme_turn_off) {
diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
index ae6389dd9caa..5261036bbe6e 100644
--- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
+++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
@@ -447,6 +447,7 @@ struct dw_pcie_rp {
 	bool			ecam_enabled;
 	bool			native_ecam;
 	bool                    skip_l23_ready;
+	bool                    force_l2_suspend;
 };
 
 struct dw_pcie_ep_ops {
-- 
2.37.1


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* Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS suspend skip
  2026-03-17  6:12 [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS suspend skip Richard Zhu
@ 2026-03-17 17:23 ` Bjorn Helgaas
  2026-03-18  2:55   ` Hongxing Zhu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Bjorn Helgaas @ 2026-03-17 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Richard Zhu
  Cc: frank.li, jingoohan1, l.stach, lpieralisi, kwilczynski, mani,
	robh, bhelgaas, s.hauer, kernel, festevam, linux-pci,
	linux-arm-kernel, imx, linux-kernel, stable

On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 02:12:56PM +0800, Richard Zhu wrote:
> Add a force_suspend flag to allow platform drivers to force the PCIe
> link into L2 state during suspend, even when L1SS (ASPM L1 Sub-States)
> is enabled.
> 
> By default, the DesignWare PCIe host controller skips L2 suspend when
> L1SS is supported to meet low resume latency requirements for devices
> like NVMe. However, some platforms like i.MX PCIe need to enter L2 state
> for proper power management regardless of L1SS support.
> 
> Enable force_suspend for i.MX PCIe to ensure the link enters L2 during
> system suspend.

I'm a little bit skeptical about this.

What exactly does a "low resume latency requirement" mean?  Is this an
actual functional requirement that's special to NVMe, or is it just
the desire for low resume latency that everybody has for all devices?

Is there something special about i.MX here?  Why do we want i.MX to be
different from other host controllers?

> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> Fixes: 4774faf854f5 ("PCI: dwc: Implement generic suspend/resume functionality")
> Signed-off-by: Richard Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> ---
>  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c             | 1 +
>  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c | 4 +++-
>  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h      | 1 +
>  3 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> index 81a7093494c8..7902d39185a5 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> @@ -1831,6 +1831,7 @@ static int imx_pcie_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>  		if (imx_check_flag(imx_pcie, IMX_PCIE_FLAG_SKIP_L23_READY))
>  			pci->pp.skip_l23_ready = true;
>  		pci->pp.use_atu_msg = true;
> +		pci->pp.force_l2_suspend = true;
>  		ret = dw_pcie_host_init(&pci->pp);
>  		if (ret < 0)
>  			return ret;
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> index a74339982c24..720154fd4ff0 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> @@ -1229,7 +1229,9 @@ int dw_pcie_suspend_noirq(struct dw_pcie *pci)
>  	 * If L1SS is supported, then do not put the link into L2 as some
>  	 * devices such as NVMe expect low resume latency.
>  	 */
> -	if (dw_pcie_readw_dbi(pci, offset + PCI_EXP_LNKCTL) & PCI_EXP_LNKCTL_ASPM_L1)
> +	if (!pci->pp.force_l2_suspend &&
> +	    (dw_pcie_readw_dbi(pci, offset + PCI_EXP_LNKCTL) &
> +	     PCI_EXP_LNKCTL_ASPM_L1))
>  		return 0;
>  
>  	if (pci->pp.ops->pme_turn_off) {
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> index ae6389dd9caa..5261036bbe6e 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> @@ -447,6 +447,7 @@ struct dw_pcie_rp {
>  	bool			ecam_enabled;
>  	bool			native_ecam;
>  	bool                    skip_l23_ready;
> +	bool                    force_l2_suspend;
>  };
>  
>  struct dw_pcie_ep_ops {
> -- 
> 2.37.1
> 

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* RE: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS suspend skip
  2026-03-17 17:23 ` Bjorn Helgaas
@ 2026-03-18  2:55   ` Hongxing Zhu
  2026-03-23 22:08     ` Bjorn Helgaas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Hongxing Zhu @ 2026-03-18  2:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bjorn Helgaas
  Cc: Frank Li, jingoohan1@gmail.com, l.stach@pengutronix.de,
	lpieralisi@kernel.org, kwilczynski@kernel.org, mani@kernel.org,
	robh@kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com, s.hauer@pengutronix.de,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, festevam@gmail.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	imx@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> Sent: 2026年3月18日 1:24
> To: Hongxing Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> Cc: Frank Li <frank.li@nxp.com>; jingoohan1@gmail.com;
> l.stach@pengutronix.de; lpieralisi@kernel.org; kwilczynski@kernel.org;
> mani@kernel.org; robh@kernel.org; bhelgaas@google.com;
> s.hauer@pengutronix.de; kernel@pengutronix.de; festevam@gmail.com;
> linux-pci@vger.kernel.org; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> imx@lists.linux.dev; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; stable@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS
> suspend skip
> 
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 02:12:56PM +0800, Richard Zhu wrote:
> > Add a force_suspend flag to allow platform drivers to force the PCIe
> > link into L2 state during suspend, even when L1SS (ASPM L1 Sub-States)
> > is enabled.
> >
> > By default, the DesignWare PCIe host controller skips L2 suspend when
> > L1SS is supported to meet low resume latency requirements for devices
> > like NVMe. However, some platforms like i.MX PCIe need to enter L2
> > state for proper power management regardless of L1SS support.
> >
> > Enable force_suspend for i.MX PCIe to ensure the link enters L2 during
> > system suspend.
> 
> I'm a little bit skeptical about this.
> 
> What exactly does a "low resume latency requirement" mean?  Is this an
> actual functional requirement that's special to NVMe, or is it just the desire for
> low resume latency that everybody has for all devices?
Hi Bjorn:
From my understanding, L1SS mode is characterized by lower latency when
compared to L2 or L3 modes.
It can be used on all devices, avoiding frequent power on/off cycles. NVMe can
also extend the service life of the equipment.
> 
> Is there something special about i.MX here?  Why do we want i.MX to be
> different from other host controllers?
i.MX PCIe loses power supply during Deep Sleep Mode (DSM), requiring full
reinitialization after system wake-up.

Removing the L1SS check allows the suspend process to complete successfully
and ensures the pci->suspended flag is set to true, which triggers the
proper resume sequence during system wake-up for i.MX PCIes.

Best Regards
Richard Zhu
> 
> > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> > Fixes: 4774faf854f5 ("PCI: dwc: Implement generic suspend/resume
> > functionality")
> > Signed-off-by: Richard Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c             | 1 +
> >  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c | 4 +++-
> >  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h      | 1 +
> >  3 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> > b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> > index 81a7093494c8..7902d39185a5 100644
> > --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> > +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> > @@ -1831,6 +1831,7 @@ static int imx_pcie_probe(struct platform_device
> *pdev)
> >  		if (imx_check_flag(imx_pcie, IMX_PCIE_FLAG_SKIP_L23_READY))
> >  			pci->pp.skip_l23_ready = true;
> >  		pci->pp.use_atu_msg = true;
> > +		pci->pp.force_l2_suspend = true;
> >  		ret = dw_pcie_host_init(&pci->pp);
> >  		if (ret < 0)
> >  			return ret;
> > diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> > b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> > index a74339982c24..720154fd4ff0 100644
> > --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> > +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> > @@ -1229,7 +1229,9 @@ int dw_pcie_suspend_noirq(struct dw_pcie *pci)
> >  	 * If L1SS is supported, then do not put the link into L2 as some
> >  	 * devices such as NVMe expect low resume latency.
> >  	 */
> > -	if (dw_pcie_readw_dbi(pci, offset + PCI_EXP_LNKCTL) &
> PCI_EXP_LNKCTL_ASPM_L1)
> > +	if (!pci->pp.force_l2_suspend &&
> > +	    (dw_pcie_readw_dbi(pci, offset + PCI_EXP_LNKCTL) &
> > +	     PCI_EXP_LNKCTL_ASPM_L1))
> >  		return 0;
> >
> >  	if (pci->pp.ops->pme_turn_off) {
> > diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> > b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> > index ae6389dd9caa..5261036bbe6e 100644
> > --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> > +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> > @@ -447,6 +447,7 @@ struct dw_pcie_rp {
> >  	bool			ecam_enabled;
> >  	bool			native_ecam;
> >  	bool                    skip_l23_ready;
> > +	bool                    force_l2_suspend;
> >  };
> >
> >  struct dw_pcie_ep_ops {
> > --
> > 2.37.1
> >

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* Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS suspend skip
  2026-03-18  2:55   ` Hongxing Zhu
@ 2026-03-23 22:08     ` Bjorn Helgaas
  2026-03-24  2:01       ` Hongxing Zhu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Bjorn Helgaas @ 2026-03-23 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hongxing Zhu
  Cc: Frank Li, jingoohan1@gmail.com, l.stach@pengutronix.de,
	lpieralisi@kernel.org, kwilczynski@kernel.org, mani@kernel.org,
	robh@kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com, s.hauer@pengutronix.de,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, festevam@gmail.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	imx@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org

On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 02:55:45AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> ... [messed up quoting]

> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 02:12:56PM +0800, Richard Zhu wrote:
> > > Add a force_suspend flag to allow platform drivers to force the PCIe
> > > link into L2 state during suspend, even when L1SS (ASPM L1 Sub-States)
> > > is enabled.
> > >
> > > By default, the DesignWare PCIe host controller skips L2 suspend when
> > > L1SS is supported to meet low resume latency requirements for devices
> > > like NVMe. However, some platforms like i.MX PCIe need to enter L2
> > > state for proper power management regardless of L1SS support.
> > >
> > > Enable force_suspend for i.MX PCIe to ensure the link enters L2 during
> > > system suspend.
> > 
> > I'm a little bit skeptical about this.
> > 
> > What exactly does a "low resume latency requirement" mean?  Is
> > this an actual functional requirement that's special to NVMe, or
> > is it just the desire for low resume latency that everybody has
> > for all devices?
>
> From my understanding, L1SS mode is characterized by lower latency
> when compared to L2 or L3 modes.
>
> It can be used on all devices, avoiding frequent power on/off
> cycles. NVMe can also extend the service life of the equipment.

All the above applies to all platforms, so it's not an argument for
i.MX-specific code here.

> > Is there something special about i.MX here?  Why do we want i.MX
> > to be different from other host controllers?
>
> i.MX PCIe loses power supply during Deep Sleep Mode (DSM), requiring
> full reinitialization after system wake-up.

I don't know what DSM means in PCIe or how it would help justify this
change.

> Removing the L1SS check allows the suspend process to complete
> successfully and ensures the pci->suspended flag is set to true,
> which triggers the proper resume sequence during system wake-up for
> i.MX PCIes.

> > > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> > > Fixes: 4774faf854f5 ("PCI: dwc: Implement generic suspend/resume
> > > functionality")
> > > Signed-off-by: Richard Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c             | 1 +
> > >  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c | 4 +++-
> > >  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h      | 1 +
> > >  3 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> > > b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> > > index 81a7093494c8..7902d39185a5 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> > > @@ -1831,6 +1831,7 @@ static int imx_pcie_probe(struct platform_device
> > *pdev)
> > >  		if (imx_check_flag(imx_pcie, IMX_PCIE_FLAG_SKIP_L23_READY))
> > >  			pci->pp.skip_l23_ready = true;
> > >  		pci->pp.use_atu_msg = true;
> > > +		pci->pp.force_l2_suspend = true;
> > >  		ret = dw_pcie_host_init(&pci->pp);
> > >  		if (ret < 0)
> > >  			return ret;
> > > diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> > > b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> > > index a74339982c24..720154fd4ff0 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> > > @@ -1229,7 +1229,9 @@ int dw_pcie_suspend_noirq(struct dw_pcie *pci)
> > >  	 * If L1SS is supported, then do not put the link into L2 as some
> > >  	 * devices such as NVMe expect low resume latency.
> > >  	 */
> > > -	if (dw_pcie_readw_dbi(pci, offset + PCI_EXP_LNKCTL) &
> > PCI_EXP_LNKCTL_ASPM_L1)
> > > +	if (!pci->pp.force_l2_suspend &&
> > > +	    (dw_pcie_readw_dbi(pci, offset + PCI_EXP_LNKCTL) &
> > > +	     PCI_EXP_LNKCTL_ASPM_L1))
> > >  		return 0;
> > >
> > >  	if (pci->pp.ops->pme_turn_off) {
> > > diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> > > b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> > > index ae6389dd9caa..5261036bbe6e 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> > > +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> > > @@ -447,6 +447,7 @@ struct dw_pcie_rp {
> > >  	bool			ecam_enabled;
> > >  	bool			native_ecam;
> > >  	bool                    skip_l23_ready;
> > > +	bool                    force_l2_suspend;
> > >  };
> > >
> > >  struct dw_pcie_ep_ops {
> > > --
> > > 2.37.1
> > >

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* RE: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS suspend skip
  2026-03-23 22:08     ` Bjorn Helgaas
@ 2026-03-24  2:01       ` Hongxing Zhu
  2026-04-03 17:03         ` mani
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Hongxing Zhu @ 2026-03-24  2:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bjorn Helgaas
  Cc: Frank Li, jingoohan1@gmail.com, l.stach@pengutronix.de,
	lpieralisi@kernel.org, kwilczynski@kernel.org, mani@kernel.org,
	robh@kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com, s.hauer@pengutronix.de,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, festevam@gmail.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	imx@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> Sent: 2026年3月24日 6:09
> To: Hongxing Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> Cc: Frank Li <frank.li@nxp.com>; jingoohan1@gmail.com;
> l.stach@pengutronix.de; lpieralisi@kernel.org; kwilczynski@kernel.org;
> mani@kernel.org; robh@kernel.org; bhelgaas@google.com;
> s.hauer@pengutronix.de; kernel@pengutronix.de; festevam@gmail.com;
> linux-pci@vger.kernel.org; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> imx@lists.linux.dev; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; stable@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS
> suspend skip
> 
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 02:55:45AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> > ... [messed up quoting]
> 
> > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 02:12:56PM +0800, Richard Zhu wrote:
> > > > Add a force_suspend flag to allow platform drivers to force the
> > > > PCIe link into L2 state during suspend, even when L1SS (ASPM L1
> > > > Sub-States) is enabled.
> > > >
> > > > By default, the DesignWare PCIe host controller skips L2 suspend
> > > > when L1SS is supported to meet low resume latency requirements for
> > > > devices like NVMe. However, some platforms like i.MX PCIe need to
> > > > enter L2 state for proper power management regardless of L1SS
> support.
> > > >
> > > > Enable force_suspend for i.MX PCIe to ensure the link enters L2
> > > > during system suspend.
> > >
> > > I'm a little bit skeptical about this.
> > >
> > > What exactly does a "low resume latency requirement" mean?  Is this
> > > an actual functional requirement that's special to NVMe, or is it
> > > just the desire for low resume latency that everybody has for all
> > > devices?
> >
> > From my understanding, L1SS mode is characterized by lower latency
> > when compared to L2 or L3 modes.
> >
> > It can be used on all devices, avoiding frequent power on/off cycles.
> > NVMe can also extend the service life of the equipment.
> 
> All the above applies to all platforms, so it's not an argument for
> i.MX-specific code here.
>
Hi Bjorn:
Thanks for your kindly review. 
Yes, it is.
> > > Is there something special about i.MX here?  Why do we want i.MX to
> > > be different from other host controllers?
> >
> > i.MX PCIe loses power supply during Deep Sleep Mode (DSM), requiring
> > full reinitialization after system wake-up.
> 
> I don't know what DSM means in PCIe or how it would help justify this
> change.
> 
i.MX PCIe power is gated off during suspend, requiring full reinitialization
on resume

Best Regards
Richard Zhu
> > Removing the L1SS check allows the suspend process to complete
> > successfully and ensures the pci->suspended flag is set to true, which
> > triggers the proper resume sequence during system wake-up for i.MX
> > PCIes.
> 
> > > > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> > > > Fixes: 4774faf854f5 ("PCI: dwc: Implement generic suspend/resume
> > > > functionality")
> > > > Signed-off-by: Richard Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c             | 1 +
> > > >  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c | 4 +++-
> > > >  drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h      | 1 +
> > > >  3 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> > > > b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> > > > index 81a7093494c8..7902d39185a5 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pci-imx6.c
> > > > @@ -1831,6 +1831,7 @@ static int imx_pcie_probe(struct
> > > > platform_device
> > > *pdev)
> > > >  		if (imx_check_flag(imx_pcie, IMX_PCIE_FLAG_SKIP_L23_READY))
> > > >  			pci->pp.skip_l23_ready = true;
> > > >  		pci->pp.use_atu_msg = true;
> > > > +		pci->pp.force_l2_suspend = true;
> > > >  		ret = dw_pcie_host_init(&pci->pp);
> > > >  		if (ret < 0)
> > > >  			return ret;
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> > > > b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> > > > index a74339982c24..720154fd4ff0 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware-host.c
> > > > @@ -1229,7 +1229,9 @@ int dw_pcie_suspend_noirq(struct dw_pcie
> *pci)
> > > >  	 * If L1SS is supported, then do not put the link into L2 as some
> > > >  	 * devices such as NVMe expect low resume latency.
> > > >  	 */
> > > > -	if (dw_pcie_readw_dbi(pci, offset + PCI_EXP_LNKCTL) &
> > > PCI_EXP_LNKCTL_ASPM_L1)
> > > > +	if (!pci->pp.force_l2_suspend &&
> > > > +	    (dw_pcie_readw_dbi(pci, offset + PCI_EXP_LNKCTL) &
> > > > +	     PCI_EXP_LNKCTL_ASPM_L1))
> > > >  		return 0;
> > > >
> > > >  	if (pci->pp.ops->pme_turn_off) { diff --git
> > > > a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> > > > b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> > > > index ae6389dd9caa..5261036bbe6e 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> > > > +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.h
> > > > @@ -447,6 +447,7 @@ struct dw_pcie_rp {
> > > >  	bool			ecam_enabled;
> > > >  	bool			native_ecam;
> > > >  	bool                    skip_l23_ready;
> > > > +	bool                    force_l2_suspend;
> > > >  };
> > > >
> > > >  struct dw_pcie_ep_ops {
> > > > --
> > > > 2.37.1
> > > >

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* Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS suspend skip
  2026-03-24  2:01       ` Hongxing Zhu
@ 2026-04-03 17:03         ` mani
  2026-04-07  3:31           ` Hongxing Zhu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: mani @ 2026-04-03 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hongxing Zhu
  Cc: Bjorn Helgaas, Frank Li, jingoohan1@gmail.com,
	l.stach@pengutronix.de, lpieralisi@kernel.org,
	kwilczynski@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
	s.hauer@pengutronix.de, kernel@pengutronix.de, festevam@gmail.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	imx@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org

On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 02:01:58AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> > Sent: 2026年3月24日 6:09
> > To: Hongxing Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> > Cc: Frank Li <frank.li@nxp.com>; jingoohan1@gmail.com;
> > l.stach@pengutronix.de; lpieralisi@kernel.org; kwilczynski@kernel.org;
> > mani@kernel.org; robh@kernel.org; bhelgaas@google.com;
> > s.hauer@pengutronix.de; kernel@pengutronix.de; festevam@gmail.com;
> > linux-pci@vger.kernel.org; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> > imx@lists.linux.dev; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; stable@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS
> > suspend skip
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 02:55:45AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> > > ... [messed up quoting]
> > 
> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 02:12:56PM +0800, Richard Zhu wrote:
> > > > > Add a force_suspend flag to allow platform drivers to force the
> > > > > PCIe link into L2 state during suspend, even when L1SS (ASPM L1
> > > > > Sub-States) is enabled.
> > > > >
> > > > > By default, the DesignWare PCIe host controller skips L2 suspend
> > > > > when L1SS is supported to meet low resume latency requirements for
> > > > > devices like NVMe. However, some platforms like i.MX PCIe need to
> > > > > enter L2 state for proper power management regardless of L1SS
> > support.
> > > > >
> > > > > Enable force_suspend for i.MX PCIe to ensure the link enters L2
> > > > > during system suspend.
> > > >
> > > > I'm a little bit skeptical about this.
> > > >
> > > > What exactly does a "low resume latency requirement" mean?  Is this
> > > > an actual functional requirement that's special to NVMe, or is it
> > > > just the desire for low resume latency that everybody has for all
> > > > devices?
> > >
> > > From my understanding, L1SS mode is characterized by lower latency
> > > when compared to L2 or L3 modes.
> > >
> > > It can be used on all devices, avoiding frequent power on/off cycles.
> > > NVMe can also extend the service life of the equipment.
> > 
> > All the above applies to all platforms, so it's not an argument for
> > i.MX-specific code here.
> >
> Hi Bjorn:
> Thanks for your kindly review. 
> Yes, it is.
> > > > Is there something special about i.MX here?  Why do we want i.MX to
> > > > be different from other host controllers?
> > >
> > > i.MX PCIe loses power supply during Deep Sleep Mode (DSM), requiring
> > > full reinitialization after system wake-up.
> > 
> > I don't know what DSM means in PCIe or how it would help justify this
> > change.
> > 
> i.MX PCIe power is gated off during suspend, requiring full reinitialization
> on resume
> 

Is this an unconditional behavior? What if the PCIe device is configured as a
wakeup source like WOL, WOW? And if you connect NVMe, this behavior will result
in resume failure as NVMe driver expects the power to be retained if ASPM is
supported.

- Mani

-- 
மணிவண்ணன் சதாசிவம்

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* RE: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS suspend skip
  2026-04-03 17:03         ` mani
@ 2026-04-07  3:31           ` Hongxing Zhu
  2026-04-07  7:24             ` mani
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Hongxing Zhu @ 2026-04-07  3:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mani@kernel.org
  Cc: Bjorn Helgaas, Frank Li, jingoohan1@gmail.com,
	l.stach@pengutronix.de, lpieralisi@kernel.org,
	kwilczynski@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
	s.hauer@pengutronix.de, kernel@pengutronix.de, festevam@gmail.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	imx@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mani@kernel.org <mani@kernel.org>
> Sent: 2026年4月4日 1:03
> To: Hongxing Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>; Frank Li <frank.li@nxp.com>;
> jingoohan1@gmail.com; l.stach@pengutronix.de; lpieralisi@kernel.org;
> kwilczynski@kernel.org; robh@kernel.org; bhelgaas@google.com;
> s.hauer@pengutronix.de; kernel@pengutronix.de; festevam@gmail.com;
> linux-pci@vger.kernel.org; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> imx@lists.linux.dev; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; stable@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS
> suspend skip
> 
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 02:01:58AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> > > Sent: 2026年3月24日 6:09
> > > To: Hongxing Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> > > Cc: Frank Li <frank.li@nxp.com>; jingoohan1@gmail.com;
> > > l.stach@pengutronix.de; lpieralisi@kernel.org;
> > > kwilczynski@kernel.org; mani@kernel.org; robh@kernel.org;
> > > bhelgaas@google.com; s.hauer@pengutronix.de; kernel@pengutronix.de;
> > > festevam@gmail.com; linux-pci@vger.kernel.org;
> > > linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> > > imx@lists.linux.dev; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> > > stable@vger.kernel.org
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to
> > > override L1SS suspend skip
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 02:55:45AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> > > > ... [messed up quoting]
> > >
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 02:12:56PM +0800, Richard Zhu wrote:
> > > > > > Add a force_suspend flag to allow platform drivers to force
> > > > > > the PCIe link into L2 state during suspend, even when L1SS
> > > > > > (ASPM L1
> > > > > > Sub-States) is enabled.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By default, the DesignWare PCIe host controller skips L2
> > > > > > suspend when L1SS is supported to meet low resume latency
> > > > > > requirements for devices like NVMe. However, some platforms
> > > > > > like i.MX PCIe need to enter L2 state for proper power
> > > > > > management regardless of L1SS
> > > support.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enable force_suspend for i.MX PCIe to ensure the link enters
> > > > > > L2 during system suspend.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm a little bit skeptical about this.
> > > > >
> > > > > What exactly does a "low resume latency requirement" mean?  Is
> > > > > this an actual functional requirement that's special to NVMe, or
> > > > > is it just the desire for low resume latency that everybody has
> > > > > for all devices?
> > > >
> > > > From my understanding, L1SS mode is characterized by lower latency
> > > > when compared to L2 or L3 modes.
> > > >
> > > > It can be used on all devices, avoiding frequent power on/off cycles.
> > > > NVMe can also extend the service life of the equipment.
> > >
> > > All the above applies to all platforms, so it's not an argument for
> > > i.MX-specific code here.
> > >
> > Hi Bjorn:
> > Thanks for your kindly review.
> > Yes, it is.
> > > > > Is there something special about i.MX here?  Why do we want i.MX
> > > > > to be different from other host controllers?
> > > >
> > > > i.MX PCIe loses power supply during Deep Sleep Mode (DSM),
> > > > requiring full reinitialization after system wake-up.
> > >
> > > I don't know what DSM means in PCIe or how it would help justify
> > > this change.
> > >
> > i.MX PCIe power is gated off during suspend, requiring full
> > reinitialization on resume
> >
> 
> Is this an unconditional behavior? What if the PCIe device is configured as a
> wakeup source like WOL, WOW? And if you connect NVMe, this behavior will
> result in resume failure as NVMe driver expects the power to be retained if
> ASPM is supported.

Yes, this is unconditional behavior. The i.MX PCIe controller exclusively
supports sideband wakeup mechanisms, which operate independently of the
PCIe link state and device power configuration.

For devices configured as wakeup sources (WOL, WOW, etc.): The sideband
wakeup path bypasses the standard PCIe power management, so these
configurations do not impact the i.MX PCIe RC controller's suspend/resume
behavior.

For NVMe devices with ASPM: While NVMe drivers typically expect power
retention when ASPM is enabled, the i.MX implementation's sideband wakeup
mechanism operates through a separate signaling path. The wakeup functionality
does not depend on maintaining PCIe link power, thus avoiding conflicts with
NVMe power state expectations.

Best Regards
Richard Zhu
> 
> - Mani
> 
> --
> மணிவண்ணன் சதாசிவம்

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* Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS suspend skip
  2026-04-07  3:31           ` Hongxing Zhu
@ 2026-04-07  7:24             ` mani
  2026-04-08  2:38               ` Hongxing Zhu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: mani @ 2026-04-07  7:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hongxing Zhu
  Cc: Bjorn Helgaas, Frank Li, jingoohan1@gmail.com,
	l.stach@pengutronix.de, lpieralisi@kernel.org,
	kwilczynski@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
	s.hauer@pengutronix.de, kernel@pengutronix.de, festevam@gmail.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	imx@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org

On Tue, Apr 07, 2026 at 03:31:57AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mani@kernel.org <mani@kernel.org>
> > Sent: 2026年4月4日 1:03
> > To: Hongxing Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> > Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>; Frank Li <frank.li@nxp.com>;
> > jingoohan1@gmail.com; l.stach@pengutronix.de; lpieralisi@kernel.org;
> > kwilczynski@kernel.org; robh@kernel.org; bhelgaas@google.com;
> > s.hauer@pengutronix.de; kernel@pengutronix.de; festevam@gmail.com;
> > linux-pci@vger.kernel.org; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> > imx@lists.linux.dev; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; stable@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS
> > suspend skip
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 02:01:58AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> > > > Sent: 2026年3月24日 6:09
> > > > To: Hongxing Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> > > > Cc: Frank Li <frank.li@nxp.com>; jingoohan1@gmail.com;
> > > > l.stach@pengutronix.de; lpieralisi@kernel.org;
> > > > kwilczynski@kernel.org; mani@kernel.org; robh@kernel.org;
> > > > bhelgaas@google.com; s.hauer@pengutronix.de; kernel@pengutronix.de;
> > > > festevam@gmail.com; linux-pci@vger.kernel.org;
> > > > linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> > > > imx@lists.linux.dev; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> > > > stable@vger.kernel.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to
> > > > override L1SS suspend skip
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 02:55:45AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> > > > > ... [messed up quoting]
> > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 02:12:56PM +0800, Richard Zhu wrote:
> > > > > > > Add a force_suspend flag to allow platform drivers to force
> > > > > > > the PCIe link into L2 state during suspend, even when L1SS
> > > > > > > (ASPM L1
> > > > > > > Sub-States) is enabled.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > By default, the DesignWare PCIe host controller skips L2
> > > > > > > suspend when L1SS is supported to meet low resume latency
> > > > > > > requirements for devices like NVMe. However, some platforms
> > > > > > > like i.MX PCIe need to enter L2 state for proper power
> > > > > > > management regardless of L1SS
> > > > support.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Enable force_suspend for i.MX PCIe to ensure the link enters
> > > > > > > L2 during system suspend.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm a little bit skeptical about this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What exactly does a "low resume latency requirement" mean?  Is
> > > > > > this an actual functional requirement that's special to NVMe, or
> > > > > > is it just the desire for low resume latency that everybody has
> > > > > > for all devices?
> > > > >
> > > > > From my understanding, L1SS mode is characterized by lower latency
> > > > > when compared to L2 or L3 modes.
> > > > >
> > > > > It can be used on all devices, avoiding frequent power on/off cycles.
> > > > > NVMe can also extend the service life of the equipment.
> > > >
> > > > All the above applies to all platforms, so it's not an argument for
> > > > i.MX-specific code here.
> > > >
> > > Hi Bjorn:
> > > Thanks for your kindly review.
> > > Yes, it is.
> > > > > > Is there something special about i.MX here?  Why do we want i.MX
> > > > > > to be different from other host controllers?
> > > > >
> > > > > i.MX PCIe loses power supply during Deep Sleep Mode (DSM),
> > > > > requiring full reinitialization after system wake-up.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what DSM means in PCIe or how it would help justify
> > > > this change.
> > > >
> > > i.MX PCIe power is gated off during suspend, requiring full
> > > reinitialization on resume
> > >
> > 
> > Is this an unconditional behavior? What if the PCIe device is configured as a
> > wakeup source like WOL, WOW? And if you connect NVMe, this behavior will
> > result in resume failure as NVMe driver expects the power to be retained if
> > ASPM is supported.
> 
> Yes, this is unconditional behavior. The i.MX PCIe controller exclusively
> supports sideband wakeup mechanisms, which operate independently of the
> PCIe link state and device power configuration.
> 

I believe you are referring to WAKE# as the sideband wakeup mechanism. If so,
both host and device has to support WAKE#.

> For devices configured as wakeup sources (WOL, WOW, etc.): The sideband
> wakeup path bypasses the standard PCIe power management, so these
> configurations do not impact the i.MX PCIe RC controller's suspend/resume
> behavior.
> 

Once user enables wakeup for a device, PCI core will configure PME_EN only if
the device supports toggling WAKE# from D3Cold. So the wakeup functionality
depends on device too, not just the RC.

> For NVMe devices with ASPM: While NVMe drivers typically expect power
> retention when ASPM is enabled, the i.MX implementation's sideband wakeup
> mechanism operates through a separate signaling path. The wakeup functionality
> does not depend on maintaining PCIe link power, thus avoiding conflicts with
> NVMe power state expectations.
> 

There is no relation between WAKE# and NVMe. NVMe is a passive device, so it
doesn't support WAKE#. With this patch alone, the NVMe driver won't resume (is
ASPM is enabled). You need to tell the NVMe driver to perpare for power loss
too. Maybe this patch can help you:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251231162126.7728-1-manivannan.sadhasivam@oss.qualcomm.com/

But that patch will only help if your platform supports S2RAM through PSCI.

- Mani

-- 
மணிவண்ணன் சதாசிவம்

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* RE: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS suspend skip
  2026-04-07  7:24             ` mani
@ 2026-04-08  2:38               ` Hongxing Zhu
  2026-04-10 22:53                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Hongxing Zhu @ 2026-04-08  2:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mani@kernel.org
  Cc: Bjorn Helgaas, Frank Li, jingoohan1@gmail.com,
	l.stach@pengutronix.de, lpieralisi@kernel.org,
	kwilczynski@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
	s.hauer@pengutronix.de, kernel@pengutronix.de, festevam@gmail.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	imx@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mani@kernel.org <mani@kernel.org>
> Sent: 2026年4月7日 15:24
> To: Hongxing Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>; Frank Li <frank.li@nxp.com>;
> jingoohan1@gmail.com; l.stach@pengutronix.de; lpieralisi@kernel.org;
> kwilczynski@kernel.org; robh@kernel.org; bhelgaas@google.com;
> s.hauer@pengutronix.de; kernel@pengutronix.de; festevam@gmail.com;
> linux-pci@vger.kernel.org; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> imx@lists.linux.dev; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; stable@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS
> suspend skip
>
> On Tue, Apr 07, 2026 at 03:31:57AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mani@kernel.org <mani@kernel.org>
> > > Sent: 2026年4月4日 1:03
> > > To: Hongxing Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> > > Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>; Frank Li <frank.li@nxp.com>;
> > > jingoohan1@gmail.com; l.stach@pengutronix.de; lpieralisi@kernel.org;
> > > kwilczynski@kernel.org; robh@kernel.org; bhelgaas@google.com;
> > > s.hauer@pengutronix.de; kernel@pengutronix.de; festevam@gmail.com;
> > > linux-pci@vger.kernel.org; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> > > imx@lists.linux.dev; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> > > stable@vger.kernel.org
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to
> > > override L1SS suspend skip
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 02:01:58AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> > > > > Sent: 2026年3月24日 6:09
> > > > > To: Hongxing Zhu <hongxing.zhu@nxp.com>
> > > > > Cc: Frank Li <frank.li@nxp.com>; jingoohan1@gmail.com;
> > > > > l.stach@pengutronix.de; lpieralisi@kernel.org;
> > > > > kwilczynski@kernel.org; mani@kernel.org; robh@kernel.org;
> > > > > bhelgaas@google.com; s.hauer@pengutronix.de;
> > > > > kernel@pengutronix.de; festevam@gmail.com;
> > > > > linux-pci@vger.kernel.org; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> > > > > imx@lists.linux.dev; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> > > > > stable@vger.kernel.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to
> > > > > override L1SS suspend skip
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 02:55:45AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> > > > > > ... [messed up quoting]
> > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 02:12:56PM +0800, Richard Zhu wrote:
> > > > > > > > Add a force_suspend flag to allow platform drivers to
> > > > > > > > force the PCIe link into L2 state during suspend, even
> > > > > > > > when L1SS (ASPM L1
> > > > > > > > Sub-States) is enabled.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > By default, the DesignWare PCIe host controller skips L2
> > > > > > > > suspend when L1SS is supported to meet low resume latency
> > > > > > > > requirements for devices like NVMe. However, some
> > > > > > > > platforms like i.MX PCIe need to enter L2 state for proper
> > > > > > > > power management regardless of L1SS
> > > > > support.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Enable force_suspend for i.MX PCIe to ensure the link
> > > > > > > > enters
> > > > > > > > L2 during system suspend.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm a little bit skeptical about this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What exactly does a "low resume latency requirement" mean?
> > > > > > > Is this an actual functional requirement that's special to
> > > > > > > NVMe, or is it just the desire for low resume latency that
> > > > > > > everybody has for all devices?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From my understanding, L1SS mode is characterized by lower
> > > > > > latency when compared to L2 or L3 modes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It can be used on all devices, avoiding frequent power on/off cycles.
> > > > > > NVMe can also extend the service life of the equipment.
> > > > >
> > > > > All the above applies to all platforms, so it's not an argument
> > > > > for i.MX-specific code here.
> > > > >
> > > > Hi Bjorn:
> > > > Thanks for your kindly review.
> > > > Yes, it is.
> > > > > > > Is there something special about i.MX here?  Why do we want
> > > > > > > i.MX to be different from other host controllers?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i.MX PCIe loses power supply during Deep Sleep Mode (DSM),
> > > > > > requiring full reinitialization after system wake-up.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know what DSM means in PCIe or how it would help justify
> > > > > this change.
> > > > >
> > > > i.MX PCIe power is gated off during suspend, requiring full
> > > > reinitialization on resume
> > > >
> > >
> > > Is this an unconditional behavior? What if the PCIe device is
> > > configured as a wakeup source like WOL, WOW? And if you connect
> > > NVMe, this behavior will result in resume failure as NVMe driver
> > > expects the power to be retained if ASPM is supported.
> >
> > Yes, this is unconditional behavior. The i.MX PCIe controller
> > exclusively supports sideband wakeup mechanisms, which operate
> > independently of the PCIe link state and device power configuration.
> >
>
> I believe you are referring to WAKE# as the sideband wakeup mechanism. If so,
> both host and device has to support WAKE#.
>
Exactly.

> > For devices configured as wakeup sources (WOL, WOW, etc.): The
> > sideband wakeup path bypasses the standard PCIe power management, so
> > these configurations do not impact the i.MX PCIe RC controller's
> > suspend/resume behavior.
> >
>
> Once user enables wakeup for a device, PCI core will configure PME_EN only if
> the device supports toggling WAKE# from D3Cold. So the wakeup functionality
> depends on device too, not just the RC.
>
Yes, you're right.

> > For NVMe devices with ASPM: While NVMe drivers typically expect power
> > retention when ASPM is enabled, the i.MX implementation's sideband
> > wakeup mechanism operates through a separate signaling path. The
> > wakeup functionality does not depend on maintaining PCIe link power,
> > thus avoiding conflicts with NVMe power state expectations.
> >
>
> There is no relation between WAKE# and NVMe. NVMe is a passive device, so
> it doesn't support WAKE#. With this patch alone, the NVMe driver won't
> resume (is ASPM is enabled). You need to tell the NVMe driver to perpare for
> power loss too. Maybe this patch can help you:
> https://lore.kern/
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>
> But that patch will only help if your platform supports S2RAM through PSCI.
Thanks a lot, this patch is helpful.
Since, i.MX platforms support the S2RAM through PSCI.

One additional note regarding NVMe: ASPM (Active State Power Management) is
disabled locally on i.MX platforms for NVMe devices. This decision was made
after encountering a system hang issue similar to the one reported by Hans a
few months ago in his patch listed below.
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nvme/20250502032051.920990-1-hans.zhang@cixtech.com/

Best Regards
Richard Zhu
>
> - Mani
>
> --
> மணிவண்ணன் சதாசிவம்

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v1] PCI: imx6: Add force_suspend flag to override L1SS suspend skip
  2026-04-08  2:38               ` Hongxing Zhu
@ 2026-04-10 22:53                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Bjorn Helgaas @ 2026-04-10 22:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hongxing Zhu
  Cc: mani@kernel.org, Frank Li, jingoohan1@gmail.com,
	l.stach@pengutronix.de, lpieralisi@kernel.org,
	kwilczynski@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
	s.hauer@pengutronix.de, kernel@pengutronix.de, festevam@gmail.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	imx@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org

On Wed, Apr 08, 2026 at 02:38:35AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> ...

> One additional note regarding NVMe: ASPM (Active State Power Management) is
> disabled locally on i.MX platforms for NVMe devices. This decision was made
> after encountering a system hang issue similar to the one reported by Hans a
> few months ago in his patch listed below.
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nvme/20250502032051.920990-1-hans.zhang@cixtech.com/

Where is ASPM disabled for i.MX?  I don't see anything in pci-imx6.c.

It doesn't sound architecturally clean to me to disable ASPM based on
whether an NVMe device is involved.

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