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From: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
To: Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] PCI: pciehp: Fix hotplug on Catlow Lake with unreliable PME status
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 09:08:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260407070800.GF3552@black.igk.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <633cef07-2991-4ce8-b8c6-6b091deaeb0b@linux.intel.com>

Hi,

On Fri, Apr 03, 2026 at 12:37:39PM -0700, Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
> Hi Mika,
> 
> On 3/27/2026 4:16 AM, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > Hey,
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 02:23:50PM -0700, Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
> >> Hi Mika,
> >>
> >> On 3/25/2026 11:12 PM, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 02:12:48PM -0700, Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/24/2026 11:11 PM, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 02:45:25PM -0700, Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan wrote:
> >>>>>>> eb34da60edee ("PCI: pciehp: Disable hotplug interrupt during suspend")
> >>>>>>> cleared PCI_EXP_SLTCTL_HPIE so that when the link goes down, we
> >>>>>>> wouldn't get a PCI_EXP_SLTSTA_DLLSC interrupt and wake the system.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I don't know the details of why the PCI_EXP_SLTSTA_DLLSC would cause
> >>>>>>> that wakeup.  I would think pciehp should field that, and it should be
> >>>>>>> able to figure out whether to bring the port out of D3hot.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyway, with this patch it looks like we'll leave PCI_EXP_SLTCTL_HPIE
> >>>>>>> set, and potentially get that PCI_EXP_SLTSTA_DLLSC interrupt again?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have tested this patch on Catlow Lake. Enabling HPIE does not result in
> >>>>>> spurious wakeups as mentioned in Mika's patch.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mika, any comments?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you have connected to the slot?
> >>>>
> >>>> A network card.
> >>>
> >>> Okay.
> >>>
> >>> Out of interest how do you hotplug it? :)
> >>
> >> We physically remove and insert the card.
> > 
> > Got it.
> > 
> >>>>> IIRC the interrupt triggers when presence change toggles (due to the link
> >>>>> going down).
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have tested the s3 mode. I was able to see message related to system entering
> >>>> suspend and then coming back again after (after user intervention). I also noted
> >>>> pcie_disable_interrupt() called before suspend and pcie_enable_interrupt() called
> >>>> after resume.
> >>>
> >>> In case of S3 the BIOS also configures the hardware before entering
> >>> suspend. On client at least it's suspend-to-idle and any interrupt will
> >>> bring the CPU and the system out of it. It could be that that's the reason
> >>> you don't see any issue if this is server system and it goes into full S3?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Looking at the kernel logs, the system is actually using suspend-to-idle 
> >> (s2idle), not full S3:
> >>
> >>   PM: suspend entry (s2idle)
> >>
> >> So this is the same suspend mode where you observed the spurious wakeup issue.
> >> Interestingly, we're not seeing the problem on Catlow Lake with HPIE enabled.
> >>
> >> I am trying to understand the wakeup sequence in your case. IIUC, before the
> >> system enters suspend, it will put the device and port in D3hot, right? So link
> >> down should happen before the system goes to sleep or idle. At what point does
> >> the spurious DLLSC interrupt occur that causes the unwanted wakeup?
> > 
> > I think in case of tunneled PCIe it is presence detect that toggles and
> > triggers the interrupt if left enabled.
> > 
> > The flow is something like this (from my memory):
> > 
> > 1. User enters s2idle.
> > 2. PM core suspends devices.
> > 3. PCI core suspends the devices behind the root port and then the root
> >    port itself. This makes the root port be in D3hot and the link below it
> >    is still in L1.
> > 4. PCI/ACPI turns of the power resource attached to the root port. This
> >    puts the link into L2/3 ready and then PERST# is asserted in which case
> >    the tunnels are gone and presence detect changes and the link enters L2
> >    and the root port enters D3cold.
> 
> Thanks for the detailed explanation. So the spurious wakeup happens when the
> power resource is turned off during suspend, which triggers the presence detect
> change. Is there a way to detect if a port has this power resource configuration
> via ACPI methods? I'm wondering if we could make HPIE disabling conditional on
> the presence of this power management setup.

Yes the Root Port has _PR3() method but see below.

> > In your case does the root port enter D3cold? Does it have power resource?
> > Or it stays in D3hot? We should not put any hotplug ports into low power
> > states if they don't have HotPlugSupportInD3 property as described here:
> 
> I think it stays in D3hot. I am not very clear about the power resource. is
> there a way to check for it? Should I look for power_resources_* in sysfs or
> check the ACPI tables directly?
> 
> Regarding your suggestion about HotPlugSupportInD3: would it make sense to modify
> the HPIE disable logic to be conditional on the presence of this _DSD property? 

We already have the check in acpi_pci_bridge_d3(). In your case that should
return false and the port should never enter D3.

      reply	other threads:[~2026-04-07  7:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-16 22:08 [PATCH v3] PCI: pciehp: Fix hotplug on Catlow Lake with unreliable PME status Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-03-23 12:53 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-03-23 23:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-03-24 21:45   ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-03-24 23:46     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-03-25  5:56     ` Lukas Wunner
2026-03-25 23:21       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-03-25  6:11     ` Mika Westerberg
2026-03-25 21:12       ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-03-26  6:12         ` Mika Westerberg
2026-03-26 21:23           ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-03-27 11:16             ` Mika Westerberg
2026-04-03 19:37               ` Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2026-04-07  7:08                 ` Mika Westerberg [this message]

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