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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>,
	Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, vsethi@nvidia.com,
	Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/24] iommu: Add iommu_report_device_broken() to quarantine a broken device
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 20:02:04 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260519230204.GM3602937@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <agzkldmlG1cuDkj4@Asurada-Nvidia>

On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 03:30:45PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 04:16:26PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 11:29:23AM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 09:07:37AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 08:38:54PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > Then, the core needs to block the device using the similar routine
> > > to the reset prepare(). And that needs to hold group->mutex, so it
> > > needs an async worker.
> > > 
> > > Do you see a much simpler way?
> > 
> > Put the work on the dev_iommu and forget about rcu.
> > 
> > But this is all probably better as some later series if at all. The
> > driver can block the ATS and the expectation is something will FLR the
> > device. The FLR will set the blocking and then restore the
> > domain. None of this async work seems functionally necessary, though
> > it would be a nice to have. Lets focus on the bare minimum here it, it
> > is already a difficult enough problem without tacking on these
> > extras..
> 
> OK. So you are suggesting a quarantine at the driver-level only:
> 
> 1. Driver detects ATC_INV timeout during an invalidation.
> 2. Driver retries the commands to identify the master.

I might argue to push even this out to a followup series given it is
complex and I suspect it becomes much simpler after the batch
removal...

> 3. Driver calls pci_disable_ats() and clears STE.EATS.
> 4. Driver marks domain->invs ATS entries as BROKEN.
>    (optional since pci_disable_ats() is done?)

We need to stop sending invs otherwise there will be trouble making
forward progress.

> 5. Driver sets master->ats_broken to fence concurrent attach:
>    arm_smmu_write_ste() and arm_smmu_ats_supported().

Not sure this is needed, if we race some attach then the attach will
re-set EATS, get another timeout and clear EATS. Doesn't seem worth
trying to optimize for.

> 6. Something external triggers an FLR (sysfs or AER).
> 7. FLR goes through pci_dev_reset_iommu_prepare()/done(). done()
>    reverts 3+4 and calls the reset_device_done callback clearing
>    master->ats_broken (5).

It should restore core/driver/hw synchronization of EATS and the
pci_enable_ats() by installing a blocking domain. Then it can go on to
re-attach a translating domain and everything is back to correct.

We do need to push a pci error event (didn't see that in this series)
so the driver can catch it and start the FLR process. I suppose that
will still need to bounce through a workqueue, and once you have that
it can also set the blocked domain prior to calling out to the driver.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-19 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-19  3:38 [PATCH v4 00/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Quarantine device upon ATC invalidation timeout Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 01/24] PCI: Don't suspend IOMMU when probing reset capability Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 02/24] PCI: Propagate FLR return values to callers Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 03/24] iommu: Convert gdev->blocked from bool to enum gdev_blocked Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 04/24] iommu: Pass in reset result to pci_dev_reset_iommu_done() Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 05/24] iommu: Add reset_device_done callback for hardware fault recovery Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 06/24] iommu: Defer iommu_group free via kfree_rcu() Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19 11:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-19 18:54     ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 07/24] iommu: Defer __iommu_group_free_device() to be outside group->mutex Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19 11:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 08/24] iommu: Change group->devices to RCU-protected list Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 09/24] iommu: Add group pointer to struct group_device Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 10/24] iommu: Add __iommu_group_block_device helper Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 11/24] iommu: Add iommu_report_device_broken() to quarantine a broken device Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19 12:07   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-19 18:29     ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19 19:16       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-19 22:30         ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19 23:02           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-05-20  0:21             ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-20  0:30               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-20  7:20                 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-20 17:51                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-20 18:13                     ` Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 12/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Mark ATC invalidate timeouts via lockless bitmap Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 13/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Skip remaining GERROR causes on SFM Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 14/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce per-cmdq cmdq_err_handler callback Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 15/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Co-clear pending CMDQ_ERR when CMD_SYNC times out Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 16/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Co-clear pending CMDQ_ERR when queue_has_space() fails Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 17/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add master in arm_smmu_inv for ATS entries Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19 12:01   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-19  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 18/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce master->ats_broken flag Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19 12:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-19  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 19/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add invs and has_ats to struct arm_smmu_cmdq_batch Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19 12:09   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-19  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 20/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce arm_smmu_cmdq_batch_issue() wrapper Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 21/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move arm_smmu_invs_for_each_entry to header Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 22/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce master->ats_invs Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19 12:12   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-19  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 23/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Serialize STE.EATS and ats_broken updates Nicolin Chen
2026-05-19  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 24/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Block ATS upon an ATC invalidation timeout Nicolin Chen
2026-05-20  3:59 ` [PATCH v4 00/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Quarantine device upon " Tian, Kevin
2026-05-20  6:38   ` Nicolin Chen

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