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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Dan Williams <djbw@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	driver-core@lists.linux.dev, ankita@nvidia.com,
	Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/15] netlink: specs: Introduce multi-message blobs for SPDM
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 18:20:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260721182046.16219426@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260705220819.2472765-2-djbw@kernel.org>

On Sun,  5 Jul 2026 15:08:05 -0700 Dan Williams wrote:
> The SPDM, Security Protocol and Data Model, underpins PCI device security
> and other use cases. It defines objects that allow for verification of
> device identity and configuration. These objects can be large in size 16MB.
> Netlink is otherwise suitable to define the operations, with optional
> parameters, and notifications for working with these objects. For example,
> operations like "regenerate evidence with nonce", "mark evidence
> validated", and "broadcast evidence / security state change events".
> 
> A netlink 'blob' is introduced as a way to teach YNL that one instance of a
> attribute may span multiple messages. It enables netlink to convey all the
> data needed for verification and manipulation of SPDM transported evidence.
> 
> The schema change to allows YNL to infer that an attribute may span
> multiple messages and interrogate its length to preallocate an
> appropriately sized receive buffer.
> 
> The design direction to extend the netlink schema for a "multi-message
> object receive" case was the result of this discussion [1].

.. continuing the tradition of creative abuse of Netlink.

I don't like this, sorry. You need to come up with something outside
of netlink or more netlink-y.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-22  1:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-05 22:08 [PATCH 00/15] Device Evidence and Trust for PCI Security Protocol (TDISP) Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 01/15] netlink: specs: Introduce multi-message blobs for SPDM Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:13   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-08 11:13   ` Donald Hunter
2026-07-11  1:43     ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-07-08 13:23   ` Donald Hunter
2026-07-22  1:20   ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-08-02 17:58     ` Ankit Agrawal
2026-08-03 16:35       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 02/15] tools: ynl: Teach pyynl to handle blobs Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:18   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-08 13:48   ` Donald Hunter
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 03/15] tools: ynl: Teach ynl_gen_c to validate and dump 'blob' attributes Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 04/15] device core: Introduce "device evidence" over netlink Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-08 13:22   ` Donald Hunter
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 05/15] device core: Add "device evidence" 'validate' command Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:26   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 06/15] PCI/TSM: Add device evidence support Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:16   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-08  5:00   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-07-08 18:25     ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 07/15] modules: Document the global async_probe parameter Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:15   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-17 13:44   ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 08/15] device core: Initial device trust infrastructure Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:17   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 13:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 09/15] PCI, device core: Move "untrusted" concept to DEVICE_TRUST_ADVERSARY Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:25   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 13:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-07 13:04   ` Robin Murphy
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 10/15] PCI/TSM: Add device interface security LOCKED support Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:25   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 11/15] PCI/TSM: Add device interface security RUN support Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:21   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 12/15] PCI/TSM: Add device interface security DMA enable/disable Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:25   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 13/15] PCI, device core: Add private memory access for DEVICE_TRUST_TCB Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:28   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 12:42   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-07-08 18:06     ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-07-08 18:10       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-07-09  6:32   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-07-09  7:38     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 14/15] PCI/TSM: Create MMIO descriptors via TDISP Report Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:24   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-08  9:49   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-07-05 22:08 ` [PATCH 15/15] PCI/TSM: Add relative MMIO offset support? Dan Williams
2026-07-05 22:25   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-08  2:25   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-07-08 18:05     ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-07-06 12:51 ` [PATCH 00/15] Device Evidence and Trust for PCI Security Protocol (TDISP) Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-06 20:55   ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-07-07 12:43     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-08  0:12       ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-07-08 14:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-09  2:45           ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-07-09 13:36             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-15  9:04               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-07-16 18:51                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-28  8:20 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-07-28 23:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-04  1:48     ` Xu Yilun
2026-07-29  1:57   ` Ankit Agrawal
2026-08-02 18:12   ` Ankit Agrawal

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