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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Mukesh R <mrathor@linux.microsoft.com>
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	jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 1/9] mshv: Provide a way to get partition ID if running in a VMM process
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2026 15:08:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260724150824.000075a7@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <95a1bed4-dd5a-654b-9e7a-7d5a453e3966@linux.microsoft.com>

Hi Mukesh,

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 12:14:08 -0700
Mukesh R <mrathor@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:

> On 7/23/26 15:21, Jacob Pan wrote:
> > Hi Mukesh,  
> 
> Hey Jacob, pl see inline..
> 
> > On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 19:19:41 -0700
> > Mukesh R <mrathor@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:  
> 
>    ... snip...
> 
> >>   static int
> >>   add_partition(struct mshv_partition *partition)
> >>   {
> >> @@ -2073,6 +2094,7 @@ mshv_ioctl_create_partition(void __user
> >> *user_arg, struct device *module_dev) goto cleanup_irq_srcu;
> >>   
> >>   	partition->pt_id = pt_id;
> >> +	partition->pt_vmm_tgid = current->tgid;  
> > I wonder how robust this mechanism is to identify target partition
> > via tgid.
> > 1) what prevents a VMM process create more than one partition? in
> > that case each partition would have the same tgid.  
> 
> Currently, none of the VMMs we support do that, and doesn't look like
> there is much of a demand for it.
> 
My point is that from kernel UAPI pov, we cannot count on user behavior
nor current VMM's implementation.

> > 2) IIUC, the lifetime of the partition is tied to FD, which is
> > different than the lifetime of a PID. The partition FD can be
> > inherited or passed to another process. The VMM tg can exit while
> > the FDs can be alive. Then the tgid can be reused by another
> > unrelated process, right?  
> 
> yeah, AI keeps telling me that, but not super accurate imo.
> 
> we are using tgid and not pid. tgid is process group id, and that will
> stay around as long as there is at least one process in it. if we used
> pid, then that would be the case.
> 
I understand it is tgid but don't think tgid makes difference in terms
of FD lifetime.
e.g. process A creates a partition, then passes the partition fd to
process B over a Unix socket. Process A can then exit while process B
still holds a reference to the partition file. At that point the tgid
that was stored in pt_vmm_tgid can be reused by an unrelated process C,
while the partition's file object remains alive.

> > Would it be more robust to based this on the partition FD instead of
> > tgid?  
>   
> it might be, but problem with that is we need pt-id in other cases
> where that is not available: for example in
> hv_iommu_domain_alloc_paging and in irq remapping paths for direct
> attached devices. if we can sort that out somehow, then we can do
> that. but i suspect, it would take some time to figure that out, so i
> hope we can make that a future enhancement.
> 
> For now, i've been thinking of just putting a check and returning
> ENOTSUPP if a vmm tries to create another partition.
> 
IMHO, that only solves the uniqueness issue of partition ID but not the
lifetime issue.
maybe EEXIST instead of ENOTSUPP?

> Thanks,
> -Mukesh
> 
> >>   	ret = add_partition(partition);
> >>   	if (ret)
> >> diff --git a/include/asm-generic/mshyperv.h
> >> b/include/asm-generic/mshyperv.h index bf601d67cecb..e8cbc4e3f7ad
> >> 100644 --- a/include/asm-generic/mshyperv.h
> >> +++ b/include/asm-generic/mshyperv.h
> >> @@ -350,6 +350,7 @@ int hv_call_add_logical_proc(int node, u32
> >> lp_index, u32 acpi_id); int
> >> hv_call_notify_all_processors_started(void); bool hv_lp_exists(u32
> >> lp_index); int hv_call_create_vp(int node, u64 partition_id, u32
> >> vp_index, u32 flags); +u64 mshv_current_partid(void);
> >>   
> >>   #else /* CONFIG_MSHV_ROOT */
> >>   static inline bool hv_root_partition(void) { return false; }
> >> @@ -380,6 +381,10 @@ static inline int hv_call_create_vp(int node,
> >> u64 partition_id, u32 vp_index, u3 {
> >>   	return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> >>   }
> >> +static inline u64 mshv_current_partid(void)
> >> +{
> >> +	return HV_PARTITION_ID_INVALID;
> >> +}
> >>   #endif /* CONFIG_MSHV_ROOT */
> >>   
> >>   static inline int hv_deposit_memory(u64 partition_id, u64
> >> status)  


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-24 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-18  2:19 [PATCH V4 0/9] PCI passthru on Hyper-V Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:19 ` [PATCH V4 1/9] mshv: Provide a way to get partition ID if running in a VMM process Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:32   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-23 22:21   ` Jacob Pan
2026-07-24 19:14     ` Mukesh R
2026-07-24 22:08       ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2026-07-25  1:48         ` Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:19 ` [PATCH V4 2/9] mshv: Add declarations and definitions for VFIO-MSHV bridge device Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:31   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-18  2:19 ` [PATCH V4 3/9] mshv: Introduce basic mshv bridge device for VFIO to build upon Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:36   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-18  2:19 ` [PATCH V4 4/9] mshv: Add ioctl support for MSHV-VFIO bridge device Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-24 17:20   ` Jacob Pan
2026-07-24 21:27     ` Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:19 ` [PATCH V4 5/9] mshv: Import data structs around device passthru from hyperv headers Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:30   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-18  2:19 ` [PATCH V4 6/9] PCI: hv: Export hv_build_devid_type_pci() and change return type Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:32   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-18  2:19 ` [PATCH V4 7/9] x86/hyperv: Implement Hyper-V virtual IOMMU Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-18  2:19 ` [PATCH V4 8/9] mshv: Populate mmio mappings for PCI passthru Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-24 21:41     ` Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:19 ` [PATCH V4 9/9] mshv: Disable movable regions upfront if device passthru Mukesh R
2026-07-18  2:40   ` sashiko-bot

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