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From: Arto Merilainen <amerilainen@nvidia.com>
To: dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com, aik@amd.com,
	lukas@wunner.de, Samuel Ortiz <sameo@rivosinc.com>,
	Yilun Xu <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 07/10] PCI/IDE: Add IDE establishment helpers
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:02:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <21903f51-1ed0-41a4-a8c8-cfa78ce6093d@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6896333756c9f_184e1f100ef@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch>

On 8.8.2025 20.26, dan.j.williams@intel.com wrote:
> Arto Merilainen wrote:
>> The first revision of this patch had address association register
>> programming but it has since been removed. Could you comment if there is
>> a reason for this change?
> 
> We chatted about it around this point in the original review thread [1].
> tl;dr SEV-TIO and TDX Connect did not see a strict need for it. However,
> the expectation was always to circle back and revive it if it turned out
> later to be required.

Thank you for the reference. I suppose it is ok to rely on the default 
streams on the first iteration, and add a follow-up patch in the ARM CCA 
device assignment support series in case it is the only architecture 
that depends on them.

> 
>> Some background: This might be problematic for ARM CCA. I recall seeing
>> a comment stating that the address association register programming can
>> be skipped on some architectures (e.g., apparently AMD uses a separate
>> table that contains the StreamID) but on ARM CCA the StreamID
>> association AFAIK happens through these registers.
> 
> Can you confirm and perhaps work with Aneesh to propose an incremental
> patch to add that support back? It might be something that we let the
> low level TSM driver control. Like an additional address association
> object that can be attached to 'struct pci_ide' by the low level TSM
> driver.

Aneesh, could you perhaps extend the IDE driver by adding the RP address 
association register programming in the next revision of the DA support 
series?

I think the EP side programming won't be relevant until we get to the 
P2P use-cases.

> 
> The messy part is sparse device MMIO layout vs limited association
> blocks and this is where SEV-TIO and TDX Connect have other mechanisms
> to do that stream-id association.

Despite the potential sparsity, I think there needs to be only three 
address association register blocks per SEL_IDE block: The routing is 
based on the type-1 configuration space header which defines only three 
ranges (32bit BAR, 64bit BAR, IO). When enabling IDE between an RP and 
an EP, the SEL_IDE address association registers in the RP can be 
programmed with the same ranges used in the type-1 header in the switch 
upstream from the EP.

That said, if the RP implements less than three address association 
registers per SEL_SID, this scheme won't work.

(I vaguely recall that the PCIe spec might forbid IORd/IOWr TLPs when 
selective IDE streams are used so the limit might in fact be two instead 
three...)

- R2


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-11  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-17 18:33 [PATCH v4 00/10] PCI/TSM: Core infrastructure for PCI device security (TDISP) Dan Williams
2025-07-17 18:33 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] coco/tsm: Introduce a core device for TEE Security Managers Dan Williams
2025-07-29 11:28   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-17 18:33 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] PCI/IDE: Enumerate Selective Stream IDE capabilities Dan Williams
2025-07-29 12:03   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-05 20:59     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-07 20:12   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-08-07 22:37     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-07 22:53       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-08-08  2:17         ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-08 15:59           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-08-07 22:43   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-17 18:33 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] PCI: Introduce pci_walk_bus_reverse(), for_each_pci_dev_reverse() Dan Williams
2025-07-29 13:06   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-05 23:52     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-06 10:54       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-07 20:24   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-08-07 23:17     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-07 23:26       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-17 18:33 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] PCI/TSM: Authenticate devices via platform TSM Dan Williams
2025-07-29 14:56   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-06  1:35     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-06 11:10       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-06 23:16         ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-07 10:42           ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-07  2:35         ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-05 15:53   ` Xu Yilun
2025-08-06 22:30     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-07 21:27   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-08-08 22:51     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-13  2:57   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-14  1:40     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-14 14:52       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-18 21:08         ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-17 18:33 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] samples/devsec: Introduce a PCI device-security bus + endpoint sample Dan Williams
2025-07-29 15:16   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-06  3:20     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-06 11:16       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-06 18:33         ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-11 13:18           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-08-11 20:47             ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-07 21:45   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-08-08 23:45     ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-17 18:33 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] PCI: Add PCIe Device 3 Extended Capability enumeration Dan Williams
2025-07-29 15:23   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-06 21:00     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-06 21:02     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-07 22:06   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-08-09  0:05     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-07 22:46   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-17 18:33 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] PCI/IDE: Add IDE establishment helpers Dan Williams
2025-07-29 15:45   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-06 21:40     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-07 22:38   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-08-09  1:52     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-07 22:47   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-08-08 10:21   ` Arto Merilainen
2025-08-08 17:26     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-11  8:02       ` Arto Merilainen [this message]
2025-08-28  8:19         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-17 18:33 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] PCI/IDE: Report available IDE streams Dan Williams
2025-07-29 15:47   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-07 22:48   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-17 18:33 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] PCI/TSM: Report active " Dan Williams
2025-07-29 15:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-06 21:55     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-07 22:49   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-17 18:33 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] samples/devsec: Add sample IDE establishment Dan Williams
2025-07-29 16:06   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-18 10:57 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] PCI/TSM: Core infrastructure for PCI device security (TDISP) Aneesh Kumar K.V

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