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From: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: "Bjorn Helgaas" <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Andersson" <andersson@kernel.org>,
	"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Philipp Zabel" <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Johan Hovold" <johan+linaro@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] PCI: qcom: Read back PARF_LTSSM register
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 20:38:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32c44e30-d94a-404c-8143-175bcc6de10f@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11a193b1-7a3f-43ca-b885-cac8fdf2190b@linaro.org>

On 27.03.2024 8:37 PM, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> On 15.03.2024 5:47 PM, Johan Hovold wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 11:16:59AM +0100, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>>> On 2/16/24 07:52, Johan Hovold wrote:
>>
>>>> This makes no sense. As Bjorn already said, you're just polling for the
>>>> link to come up (for a second). And unless you have something else that
>>>> depends on the write to have reached the device, there is no need to
>>>> read it back. It's not going to be cached indefinitely if that's what
>>>> you fear.
>>>
>>> The point is, if we know that the hardware is expected to return "done"
>>> within the polling timeout value of receiving the request to do so, we
>>> are actively taking away an unknown amount of time from that timeout.
>>
>> We're talking about microseconds, not milliseconds or seconds as you
>> seem to believe.
>>
>>> So, if the polling condition becomes true after 980ms, but due to write
>>> buffering the value reached the PCIe hardware after 21 ms, we're gonna
>>> hit a timeout. Or under truly extreme circumstances, the polling may
>>> time out before the write has even arrived at the PCIe hw.
>>
>> So the write latency is not an issue here.
> 
> Right, I'm willing to believe the CPU will kick the can down the road
> for this long. I'll drop this.

will not kick the can down the road for this long*

Konrad

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-27 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-10 17:10 [PATCH v2 0/3] Qualcomm PCIe RC shutdown & reinit Konrad Dybcio
2024-02-10 17:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] PCI: qcom: reshuffle reset logic in 2_7_0 .init Konrad Dybcio
2024-02-12 21:14   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-02-15 11:51     ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-02-10 17:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] PCI: qcom: Read back PARF_LTSSM register Konrad Dybcio
2024-02-12 21:17   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-02-14 21:35     ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-02-14 22:28       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-02-15 10:21         ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-02-15 16:11           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-02-15 18:44             ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-02-16  6:52               ` Johan Hovold
2024-03-15 10:16                 ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-03-15 11:16                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-03-15 16:47                   ` Johan Hovold
2024-03-27 19:37                     ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-03-27 19:38                       ` Konrad Dybcio [this message]
2024-02-10 17:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] PCI: qcom: properly implement RC shutdown/power up Konrad Dybcio
2024-02-12 21:32   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-02-14 21:33     ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-02-15  7:13       ` Johan Hovold
2024-02-15 10:22         ` Konrad Dybcio
2024-02-20  4:12   ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2024-03-27 19:37     ` Konrad Dybcio

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