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From: Krishna Chaitanya Chundru <krishna.chundru@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>
Cc: "Bjorn Helgaas" <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jingoo Han" <jingoohan1@gmail.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Jeff Johnson" <jjohnson@kernel.org>,
	"Bartosz Golaszewski" <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, mhi@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, ath11k@lists.infradead.org,
	qiang.yu@oss.qualcomm.com, quic_vbadigan@quicinc.com,
	quic_vpernami@quicinc.com, quic_mrana@quicinc.com,
	"Jeff Johnson" <jeff.johnson@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/11] PCI/bwctrl: Add support to scale bandwidth before & after link re-training
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 13:22:11 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <378d4f1e-ade1-4549-ae15-f15d387876a3@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mrsdwtzz7x6uuoakjr6kymqccfxs3lndplols7j33apbru7jii@tjdljisgaqny>



On 8/18/2025 12:39 PM, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 09:25:03AM GMT, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 8/12/2025 10:13 PM, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 09:35:46AM GMT, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/22/2025 4:33 PM, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/12/2025 4:36 AM, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/12/2025 3:06 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 04:21:23PM +0530, Krishna Chaitanya
>>>>>>> Chundru wrote:
>>>>>>>> If the driver wants to move to higher data rate/speed than
>>>>>>>> the current data
>>>>>>>> rate then the controller driver may need to change certain
>>>>>>>> votes so that
>>>>>>>> link may come up at requested data rate/speed like QCOM PCIe
>>>>>>>> controllers
>>>>>>>> need to change their RPMh (Resource Power Manager-hardened) state. Once
>>>>>>>> link retraining is done controller drivers needs to adjust their votes
>>>>>>>> based on the final data rate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some controllers also may need to update their bandwidth voting like
>>>>>>>> ICC BW votings etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, add pre_link_speed_change() & post_link_speed_change() op to call
>>>>>>>> before & after the link re-train. There is no explicit
>>>>>>>> locking mechanisms
>>>>>>>> as these are called by a single client Endpoint driver.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In case of PCIe switch, if there is a request to change
>>>>>>>> target speed for a
>>>>>>>> downstream port then no need to call these function ops as these are
>>>>>>>> outside the scope of the controller drivers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/pci.h
>>>>>>>> @@ -599,6 +599,24 @@ struct pci_host_bridge {
>>>>>>>>         void (*release_fn)(struct pci_host_bridge *);
>>>>>>>>         int (*enable_device)(struct pci_host_bridge *bridge,
>>>>>>>> struct pci_dev *dev);
>>>>>>>>         void (*disable_device)(struct pci_host_bridge *bridge,
>>>>>>>> struct pci_dev *dev);
>>>>>>>> +    /*
>>>>>>>> +     * Callback to the host bridge drivers to update ICC BW
>>>>>>>> votes, clock
>>>>>>>> +     * frequencies etc.. for the link re-train to come up
>>>>>>>> in targeted speed.
>>>>>>>> +     * These are intended to be called by devices directly
>>>>>>>> attached to the
>>>>>>>> +     * Root Port. These are called by a single client
>>>>>>>> Endpoint driver, so
>>>>>>>> +     * there is no need for explicit locking mechanisms.
>>>>>>>> +     */
>>>>>>>> +    int (*pre_link_speed_change)(struct pci_host_bridge *bridge,
>>>>>>>> +                     struct pci_dev *dev, int speed);
>>>>>>>> +    /*
>>>>>>>> +     * Callback to the host bridge drivers to adjust ICC BW
>>>>>>>> votes, clock
>>>>>>>> +     * frequencies etc.. to the updated speed after link
>>>>>>>> re-train. These
>>>>>>>> +     * are intended to be called by devices directly attached to the
>>>>>>>> +     * Root Port. These are called by a single client Endpoint driver,
>>>>>>>> +     * so there is no need for explicit locking mechanisms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No need to repeat the entire comment.  s/.././
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These pointers feel awfully specific for being in struct
>>>>>>> pci_host_bridge, since we only need them for a questionable QCOM
>>>>>>> controller.  I think this needs to be pushed down into qcom somehow as
>>>>>>> some kind of quirk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently these are needed by QCOM controllers, but it may also needed
>>>>>> by other controllers may also need these for updating ICC votes, any
>>>>>> system level votes, clock frequencies etc.
>>>>>> QCOM controllers is also doing one extra step in these functions to
>>>>>> disable and enable ASPM only as it cannot link speed change support
>>>>>> with ASPM enabled.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Bjorn, can you check this.
>>>>>
>>>>> For QCOM devices we need to update the RPMh vote i.e a power source
>>>>> votes for the link to come up in required speed. and also we need
>>>>> to update interconnect votes also. This will be applicable for
>>>>> other vendors also.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is not correct place I can add them in the pci_ops.
>>>> Bjorn,
>>>>
>>>> Can you please comment on this.
>>>>
>>>> Is this fine to move these to the pci_ops of the bridge.
>>>> Again these are not specific to QCOM, any controller driver which
>>>> needs to change their clock rates, ICC bw votes etc needs to have
>>>> these.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, moving to 'pci_ops' is terrible than having it in 'pci_host_bridge' IMO. If
>>> we want to get rid of these ops, we can introduce a quirk flag in
>>> 'pci_host_bridge' and when set, the bwctrl code can disable/enable ASPM
>>> before/after link retrain. This clearly states that the controller is quirky and
>>> we need to disable/enable ASPM.
>>>
>>> For setting OPP, you can have a separate callback in 'pci_host_bridge' that just
>>> allows setting OPP *after* retrain, like 'pci_host_bridge:link_change_notify()'.
>>> I don't think you really need to set OPP before retrain though. As even if you
>>> do it pre and post link retrain, there is still a small window where the link
>>> will operate without adequate vote.
>>>
>> Hi Mani,
>>
>> we need to update the OPP votes before link retrain, for example if
>> there is request  to change data rate from 5 GT/s to 8 GT/s on some
>> platforms we need to update RPMh votes from low_svs to NOM corner
>> without this clocks will not scale for data rates 8 GT/s and link
>> retrain will fail. For that reason we are trying to add pre and post
>> callbacks.
>>
> 
> If we are targetting OPP only, then can't we do direct OPP setting from the
> bwctrl driver itself? Or we also need to set ICC votes directly also (in the
> non-opp case)?
we are targeting only OPP, I can directly call OPP API's from bwctrl
driver.

As recommended, I will try to introduce a quirk flag in pci_host_bridge
to enable and disable ASPM before & after retrain. And will call OPP
API's in bwctrl driver itself.

- Krishna Chaitanya.
> 
> - Mani
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-18  7:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-09 10:51 [PATCH v4 00/11] bus: mhi: host: Add support for mhi bus bw Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-06-09 10:51 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] PCI: Update current bus speed as part of pci_pwrctrl_notify() Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-08 15:13   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-06-09 10:51 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] PCI/bwctrl: Add support to scale bandwidth before & after link re-training Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-08 16:25   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-09 12:08     ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-11 21:36   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-11 23:06     ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-22 11:03       ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-08-12  4:05         ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-08-12  9:27           ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-08-12  9:32             ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-08-12 16:43           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-08-13  3:55             ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-08-18  7:09               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-08-18  7:52                 ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru [this message]
2025-06-09 10:51 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] bus: mhi: host: Add support to read MHI capabilities Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-08 16:36   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-09 12:09     ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-09 12:20       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-07-09 15:50         ` Hans Zhang
2025-08-18  5:47         ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-06-09 10:51 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] bus: mhi: host: Add support for Bandwidth scale Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-08 17:06   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-09 12:21     ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-11  4:33       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-11  6:55         ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-23 16:25           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-06-09 10:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] PCI/ASPM: Return enabled ASPM states as part of pcie_aspm_enabled() Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-06-09 10:51 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] PCI/ASPM: Clear aspm_disable as part of __pci_enable_link_state() Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-08 17:15   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-09  9:10     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-07-09 12:31       ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-11  4:28         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-11  9:21           ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-07-11 10:55             ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-11 13:38               ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-07-11 23:00                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-12  9:35                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-12 16:05                     ` Hans Zhang
2025-07-12 17:02                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-15 14:53                         ` Hans Zhang
2025-07-14 19:32                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-15 14:48                         ` Hans Zhang
2025-07-13 16:27                     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-07-14 13:51                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-14 19:42                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-21  7:45                         ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-07-14 19:21                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-13 16:38                   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-07-11 23:02   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-11 23:10     ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-06-09 10:51 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] PCI: qcom: Extract core logic from qcom_pcie_icc_opp_update() Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-06-09 10:51 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] PCI: qcom: Add support for PCIe pre/post_link_speed_change() Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-08 17:19   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-11 21:29   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-11 23:11     ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-06-09 10:51 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] PCI: Export pci_set_target_speed() Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-06-09 10:51 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] PCI: Add function to convert lnkctl2speed to pci_bus_speed Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-08 17:21   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-11 21:45   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-06-09 10:51 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] wifi: ath11k: Add support for MHI bandwidth scaling Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-08 17:23   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam

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