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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Ethan Zhao <haifeng.zhao@linux.intel.com>
Cc: bhelgaas@google.com, baolu.lu@linux.intel.com,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, will@kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Haorong Ye <yehaorong@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] iommu/vt-d: don's issue devTLB flush request when device is disconnected
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2023 11:54:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3b7742c4-bbae-4a78-a5a6-30df936a17d4@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231213104417.GA31964@wunner.de>

On 13/12/2023 10:44 am, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:46:37PM -0500, Ethan Zhao wrote:
>> For those endpoint devices connect to system via hotplug capable ports,
>> users could request a warm reset to the device by flapping device's link
>> through setting the slot's link control register,
> 
> Well, users could just *unplug* the device, right?  Why is it relevant
> that thay could fiddle with registers in config space?
> 
> 
>> as pciehpt_ist() DLLSC
>> interrupt sequence response, pciehp will unload the device driver and
>> then power it off. thus cause an IOMMU devTLB flush request for device to
>> be sent and a long time completion/timeout waiting in interrupt context.
> 
> A completion timeout should be on the order of usecs or msecs, why does it
> cause a hard lockup?  The dmesg excerpt you've provided shows a 12 *second*
> delay between hot removal and watchdog reaction.

The PCIe spec only requires an endpoint to respond to an ATS invalidate 
within a rather hilarious 90 seconds, so it's primarily a question of 
how patient the root complex and bridges in between are prepared to be.

>> Fix it by checking the device's error_state in
>> devtlb_invalidation_with_pasid() to avoid sending meaningless devTLB flush
>> request to link down device that is set to pci_channel_io_perm_failure and
>> then powered off in
> 
> This doesn't seem to be a proper fix.  It will work most of the time
> but not always.  A user might bring down the slot via sysfs, then yank
> the card from the slot just when the iommu flush occurs such that the
> pci_dev_is_disconnected(pdev) check returns false but the card is
> physically gone immediately afterwards.  In other words, you've shrunk
> the time window during which the issue may occur, but haven't eliminated
> it completely.

Yeah, I think we have a subtle but fundamental issue here in that the 
iommu_release_device() callback is hooked to BUS_NOTIFY_REMOVED_DEVICE, 
so in general probably shouldn't be assuming it's safe to do anything 
with the device itself *after* it's already been removed from its bus - 
this step is primarily about cleaning up any of the IOMMU's own state 
relating to the given device.

I think if we want to ensure ATCs are invalidated on hot-unplug we need 
an additional pre-removal notifier to take care of that, and that step 
would then want to distinguish between an orderly removal where cleaning 
up is somewhat meaningful, and a surprise removal where it definitely isn't.

Thanks,
Robin.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-13 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-13  3:46 [PATCH RFC 0/2] fix vt-d hard lockup when hotplug ATS capable device Ethan Zhao
2023-12-13  3:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] PCI: make pci_dev_is_disconnected() helper public for other drivers Ethan Zhao
2023-12-13 10:49   ` Lukas Wunner
2023-12-14  0:58     ` Ethan Zhao
2023-12-21 10:51       ` Lukas Wunner
2023-12-22  2:35         ` Ethan Zhao
2023-12-13  3:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] iommu/vt-d: don's issue devTLB flush request when device is disconnected Ethan Zhao
2023-12-13 10:44   ` Lukas Wunner
2023-12-13 11:54     ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2023-12-14  2:40       ` Ethan Zhao
2023-12-21 10:42       ` Lukas Wunner
2023-12-21 11:01         ` Robin Murphy
2023-12-21 11:07           ` Lukas Wunner
2023-12-22  3:20         ` Ethan Zhao
2023-12-14  2:16     ` Ethan Zhao
2023-12-15  0:43       ` Ethan Zhao
2023-12-13 11:59   ` Baolu Lu
2023-12-14  2:26     ` Ethan Zhao
2023-12-15  1:03       ` Ethan Zhao
2023-12-15  1:34         ` Baolu Lu
2023-12-15  1:51           ` Ethan Zhao
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-12-20  0:51 [PATCH v4 0/2] fix vt-d hard lockup when hotplug ATS capable device Ethan Zhao
2023-12-20  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] PCI: make pci_dev_is_disconnected() helper public for other drivers Ethan Zhao
2023-12-20  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] iommu/vt-d: don's issue devTLB flush request when device is disconnected Ethan Zhao
2023-12-21 10:39   ` Lukas Wunner
2023-12-21 11:01     ` Lukas Wunner
2023-12-22  2:08       ` Ethan Zhao
2023-12-22  3:56       ` Ethan Zhao
2023-12-22  1:56     ` Ethan Zhao
2023-12-22  8:14       ` Lukas Wunner
2023-12-22  9:01         ` Ethan Zhao

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