From: poza@codeaurora.org
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>, okaya@kernel.org
Cc: Thomas Tai <thomas.tai@oracle.com>,
bhelgaas@google.com, keith.busch@intel.com,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci-owner@vger.kernel.org,
Sam Bobroff <sam.bobroff@au1.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] PCI/AER: prevent pcie_do_fatal_recovery from using device after it is removed
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 13:35:43 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42bd39aef30fe24bfc48d378e1f5d35d@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bf7ceabb6fe51398e0f4eebd9c4fe4ac1ec2b8a4.camel@kernel.crashing.org>
On 2018-08-16 12:35, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-08-16 at 16:51 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>> No, this is wrong and not the intent of the error handling.
>>
>> You seem to be applying PCIe specific concepts brain-farted at Intel
>> that are way way away from what we care about in practice and in
>> Linux.
>>
>> > e.g. some driver handle errors ERR_NONFATAL or FATAL in similar ways
>> > e.g.
>> > ioat_pcie_error_detected(); calls ioat_shutdown(); in case of
>> > ERR_NONFATAL
>> > otherwise ioat_shutdown() in case of ERR_FATAL.
>>
>> Since when the error handling callbacks even have the concept of FATAL
>> vs. non-fatal ? This doesn't appear anyhwhere in the prototype of the
>> struct pci_error_handlers and shouldn't.
>
> Ugh... I just saw the changes you did to Documentation/PCI/pci-error-
> recovery.txt and I would very much like to revert those !
>
> Bjorn, you shouldn't let changes to the PCI error handling through
> without acks from us, it looks like we didn't notice (we can't possibly
> monitor all lists).
>
> We wrote that in the firsat place and our EEH infrastructure rely on it
> heavily on it.
>
> Poza, you seem to have not understood the intent of the code and are
> now changing the rules in ways that are broken in our opinion. This is
> bad.
>
> Bjorn, please revert all of those changes.
>
> There was NEVER an intent to separate fatal from non-fatal at that
> level. We could pass the information to the driver if we wished but the
> recovery sequence is NOT intended to be different.
>
> Especially we specifically do NOT want to unplug and replug the device
> for fatal errors at all. This is not going to work with drivers that
> cannot re-link with their various kernel services, such as storage
> devices re-connecting with mounted file systems etc...
>
> Those changes are utterly broken.
>
> The basic premise of the design that we woudl do that unplug/replug
> trick if and ONLY IF the driver doesn't have the appropriate callbacks.
>
> We are also now looking at replacing this with an ubind/re-bind because
> in practice, the unplugging is causing us all sort of problems. Sam
> (CC) can elaborate.
>
> Bjorn, we are the main authors of that spec (Linas wrote it under my
> supervision) and created those callbacks for EEH. AER picked them up
> only later. Those changes must be at the very least acked by us before
> going upstream.
>
> Ben.
+ Sinan
This patch set was there in mailing list for nearly 17 to 18 revisions
for 7 months.
besides the intent was to bring DPC and AER into the same well defined
way of error handling.
The way DPC used to behave in 2016, is still the same; which involved
removing and re-enumerating the devices.
Regards,
Oza.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-16 11:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-13 16:51 [PATCH 0/1] PCI/AER: prevent pcie_do_fatal_recovery from using device after it is removed Thomas Tai
2018-08-13 16:51 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Thomas Tai
2018-08-14 9:16 ` poza
2018-08-14 9:22 ` poza
2018-08-14 13:51 ` Thomas Tai
2018-08-15 14:57 ` poza
2018-08-15 15:02 ` Thomas Tai
2018-08-15 15:26 ` poza
2018-08-15 15:43 ` Thomas Tai
2018-08-15 15:59 ` poza
2018-08-15 16:04 ` Thomas Tai
2018-08-15 21:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-15 21:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-16 6:36 ` poza
2018-08-16 6:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-16 6:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-16 8:07 ` poza
2018-08-16 8:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-16 9:03 ` poza
2018-08-16 10:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-16 14:11 ` poza
2018-08-16 23:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-17 10:29 ` poza
2018-08-17 10:44 ` poza
2018-08-18 7:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-16 7:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-16 7:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-16 7:56 ` poza
2018-08-16 8:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-16 8:05 ` poza [this message]
2018-08-16 8:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-16 8:22 ` poza
2018-08-16 8:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-16 13:30 ` Thomas Tai
2018-08-16 13:46 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-16 23:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-17 6:35 ` poza
2018-08-19 2:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-08-20 5:09 ` poza
2018-08-20 5:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-20 13:02 ` Thomas Tai
2018-08-20 13:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-19 2:19 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-08-19 21:41 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-20 2:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-20 5:19 ` poza
2018-08-20 5:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-20 7:56 ` poza
2018-08-20 11:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-20 13:26 ` poza
2018-08-20 21:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-21 5:14 ` poza
2018-08-21 6:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-21 14:37 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-21 15:07 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-21 15:29 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-21 15:50 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-21 15:55 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-21 16:44 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-21 15:30 ` poza
2018-08-21 21:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-21 22:04 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-21 22:33 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-21 23:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-21 23:13 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-22 0:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-30 0:01 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-30 0:10 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-30 0:46 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-30 4:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-20 15:53 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-20 16:13 ` poza
2018-08-20 16:32 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-20 21:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-20 21:21 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-20 21:35 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-20 21:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-20 22:02 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-20 22:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-20 22:13 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-20 22:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-22 9:13 ` Lukas Wunner
2018-08-22 14:38 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-22 14:51 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-20 22:13 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-20 22:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-21 1:30 ` Keith Busch
2018-08-20 4:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-20 4:39 ` PATCH] Partial revert of "PCI/AER: Handle ERR_FATAL with removal and re-enumeration of devices" Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-21 19:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-08-22 4:35 ` poza
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