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From: Mario Limonciello <superm1@kernel.org>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: "David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Lukas Wunner" <lukas@wunner.de>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Lu Baolu" <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Jaroslav Kysela" <perex@perex.cz>,
	"Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.com>,
	"open list:DRM DRIVERS" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:INTEL IOMMU (VT-d)" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
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	"open list:VFIO DRIVER" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:SOUND" <linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Dadap" <ddadap@nvidia.com>,
	"Mario Limonciello" <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 9/9] PCI: Add a new 'boot_display' attribute
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 23:01:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <577c103b-f68f-4748-a7ba-3e88fc71f8d7@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250722015934.GA2763711@bhelgaas>



On 7/21/25 8:59 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 07:28:07PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>> On 7/21/25 6:00 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 12:44:11PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>>> On 7/18/2025 12:36 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 12:29:05PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/18/2025 12:25 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 12:38:12PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>>>>>>> From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On systems with multiple GPUs there can be uncertainty which GPU is the
>>>>>>>> primary one used to drive the display at bootup. In some desktop
>>>>>>>> environments this can lead to increased power consumption because
>>>>>>>> secondary GPUs may be used for rendering and never go to a low power
>>>>>>>> state. In order to disambiguate this add a new sysfs attribute
>>>>>>>> 'boot_display' that uses the output of video_is_primary_device() to
>>>>>>>> populate whether a PCI device was used for driving the display.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +What:		/sys/bus/pci/devices/.../boot_display
>>>>>>>> +Date:		October 2025
>>>>>>>> +Contact:	Linux PCI developers <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
>>>>>>>> +Description:
>>>>>>>> +		This file indicates that displays connected to the device were
>>>>>>>> +		used to display the boot sequence.  If a display connected to
>>>>>>>> +		the device was used to display the boot sequence the file will
>>>>>>>> +		be present and contain "1".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      int __must_check pci_create_sysfs_dev_files(struct pci_dev *pdev)
>>>>>>>>      {
>>>>>>>> +	int retval;
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>      	if (!sysfs_initialized)
>>>>>>>>      		return -EACCES;
>>>>>>>> +	retval = pci_create_boot_display_file(pdev);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In addition to Mani's question about whether /sys/bus/pci/ is
>>>>>>> the right place for this (which is a very good question), it's
>>>>>>> also been pointed out to me that we've been trying to get rid
>>>>>>> of pci_create_sysfs_dev_files() for years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it's possible to make this a static attribute that would be
>>>>>>> much, much cleaner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right - I tried to do this, but the problem is at the time the
>>>>>> PCI device is created the information needed to make the
>>>>>> judgement isn't ready.  The options end up being:
>>>>>> * a sysfs file for every display device with 0/1
>>>>>> * a sysfs file that is not accurate until later in the boot
>>>>>
>>>>> What's missing?  The specifics might be helpful if someone has
>>>>> another crack at getting rid of pci_create_sysfs_dev_files() in
>>>>> the future.
>>>>
>>>> The underlying SCREEN_INFO code tries to walk through all the PCI
>>>> devices in a loop, but at the time all the devices are walked the
>>>> memory regions associated with the device weren't populated.
>>>
>>> Which loop are you referring to that walks through all the PCI
>>> devices?  I see this:
>>>
>>>     efifb_set_system
>>>       for_each_pci_dev(dev)
>>>
>>> but that only looks at VGA devices and IIUC you also want to look at
>>> non-VGA GPUs.
> 
> [I assume the loop is the "while (pdev =
> pci_get_base_class(PCI_BASE_CLASS_DISPLAY))" in
> __screen_info_pci_dev(), which indeed walks through all known PCI
> devices]
> 
>>> I don't see a loop in *this* series, where the screen_info path looks
>>> like this:
>>>
>>>     pci_create_boot_display_file
>>>       video_is_primary_device
>>>         screen_info_pci_dev      # added by "fbcon: Use screen info to find primary device"
>>>           screen_info_resources
>>>           __screen_info_pci_dev
>>>
>>> and we're basically matching the screen_info base/address with BAR
>>> values.
>>>
>>> The usual problem is that BARs may not have been assigned by the
>>> time pci_device_add() -> device_add() creates the static
>>> attributes.
>>>
>>> So we call pci_assign_unassigned_root_bus_resources() to assign
>>> all the BARs.  Then we call pci_create_sysfs_dev_files(), where
>>> pci_create_resource_files() creates a "resource%d" file for each
>>> BAR.
>>>
>>> But since we're trying to find the GPU that was used by BIOS, I
>>> assume its BARs were programmed by BIOS and we shouldn't have to
>>> wait until after pci_assign_unassigned_root_bus_resources().
>>
>> Yes it was screen_info_pci_dev() and __screen_info_pci_dev().  The
>> resources weren't ready on the first call into
>> __screen_info_pci_dev().
>>
>> That's why the attribute needed to be created later.
> 
> I don't understand this.  IIUC, screen_info contains addresses
> programmed by BIOS.  If we want to use that to match with a PCI
> device, we have to compare with the BAR contents *before* Linux does
> any assignments of its own.
> 
> So the only thing this should depend on is the BAR value at BIOS ->
> Linux handoff, which we know at the time of device_add(), and we
> should be able to do something like this:
> 
>    bool pci_video_is_primary_device(struct pci_dev *pdev)
>    {
>      struct screen_info *si = &screen_info;
>      struct resource res[SCREEN_INFO_MAX_RESOURCES];
>      ssize_t i, numres;
> 
>      numres = screen_info_resources(si, res, ARRAY_SIZE(res));
>      ...
> 
>      for (i = 0; i < numres; ++i) {
>        if (pci_find_resource(pdev, &res[i]))
>          return true;
>      }
> 
>      return false;
>    }
> 
>    static umode_t pci_dev_boot_display_is_visible(...)
>    {
>      struct pci_dev *pdev = to_pci_dev(kobj_to_dev(kobj));
> 
>      if (pci_video_is_primary_device(pdev))
>        return a->mode;
> 
>      return 0;
>    }
> 
> We should be able to check each BAR of each device in this path, with
> no loop through the devices at all:
> 
>    pci_device_add
>      device_add
>        device_add_attrs
>          device_add_groups
>            ...
>              create_files
>                grp->is_visible()
>                  pci_dev_boot_display_is_visible
> 
> Bjorn

You're spot on, I did a test and this works.  I'll clean it up and put 
it on the list and we can decide between this way and moving to drm.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-22  4:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-17 17:38 [PATCH v9 0/9] Adjust fbcon console device detection Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 1/9] PCI: Add helper for checking if a PCI device is a display controller Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 2/9] vfio/pci: Use pci_is_display() Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 3/9] vga_switcheroo: " Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 4/9] iommu/vt-d: " Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 5/9] ALSA: hda: " Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 6/9] Fix access to video_is_primary_device() when compiled without CONFIG_VIDEO Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 7/9] PCI/VGA: Replace vga_is_firmware_default() with a screen info check Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 8/9] fbcon: Use screen info to find primary device Mario Limonciello
2025-07-22 14:38   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-22 14:45     ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-22 15:33       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-22 15:39         ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 9/9] PCI: Add a new 'boot_display' attribute Mario Limonciello
2025-07-18 17:25   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-18 17:29     ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-18 17:36       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-18 17:44         ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-20  6:05           ` Lukas Wunner
2025-07-21 23:00           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-22  0:28             ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-22  1:59               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-22  4:01                 ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2025-07-17 20:56 ` [PATCH v9 0/9] Adjust fbcon console device detection Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-24 18:36   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-24 18:41     ` Mario Limonciello

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