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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ma Jun <majun258@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/7] Adding core support for wire-MSI bridges
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:16:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5879538.pKBkpUOxls@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <561FCDBE.8000407@arm.com>

On Thursday 15 October 2015 17:01:02 Marc Zyngier wrote:
> 
> "Preconfigured" is the key word. While you can do something like that if
> your hardware treats MSIs just as if they were wired interrupts
> (something like GICv2m), it becomes far more hairy if the target of MSIs
> is something like a GICv3 ITS (which is the case for HiSilicon mbigen).
> 
> The main reason is that the ITS relies on "translation tables" kept in
> memory, which the OS has to configure, and handing over pre-configured
> tables is not something I'm looking forward to doing. From a CPU point
> of view, this is akin entering the kernel with the MMU already on and no
> idmap...
> 
> The approach taken here is to make the MSI-ness explicit at the irqchip
> level, and keep the interrupting device oblivious of that feature. Also,
> this relies on the fact that we can have one MSI per wire, meaning that
> we don't have to multiplex anything (no nested irqchip), and that we can
> rely on hierarchical domains, which simplifies the code (at least for
> the irqchip).
> 

Thanks, that already makes things much clearer. Just one more question:
why can't those translation tables be configured statically by the
irqchip driver? Is this all about being able to cut a few cycles
in case of virtualization? I would assume that once you have gone through
the overhead of having both an MSI and a normal interrupt line (with
the need for serialization vs DMA), you can just as well trap to user
space to deliver an IRQ to a guest.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-15 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-15 15:39 [PATCH RFC 0/7] Adding core support for wire-MSI bridges Marc Zyngier
2015-10-15 15:39 ` [PATCH RFC 1/7] platform-msi: Allow MSIs to be allocated in chunks Marc Zyngier
2015-10-15 15:39 ` [PATCH RFC 2/7] platform-msi: Factor out allocation/free of private data Marc Zyngier
2015-10-16  5:46   ` Jiang Liu
2015-10-16  8:50     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-10-15 15:39 ` [PATCH RFC 3/7] irqdomain: Make irq_domain_alloc_irqs_recursive available Marc Zyngier
2015-10-15 15:39 ` [PATCH RFC 4/7] genirq/msi: Make the .prepare callback reusable Marc Zyngier
2015-10-15 17:24   ` Gabriele Paoloni
2015-10-15 17:39     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-10-16 13:07       ` Gabriele Paoloni
2015-10-16  5:45   ` Jiang Liu
2015-10-16  8:48     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-10-15 15:39 ` [PATCH RFC 5/7] genirq/msi: Add msi_domain_populate_irqs Marc Zyngier
2015-10-15 15:39 ` [PATCH RFC 6/7] platform-msi: Allow creation of a MSI-based stacked irq domain Marc Zyngier
2015-10-15 15:39 ` [PATCH RFC 7/7] irqchip: [Example] dummy wired interrupt/MSI bridge driver Marc Zyngier
2015-11-04  8:00   ` majun (F)
2015-11-04  9:03     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-11-05  8:25       ` Gabriele Paoloni
2015-11-05  9:35         ` Marc Zyngier
2015-11-05  9:43           ` Gabriele Paoloni
2015-10-15 15:46 ` [PATCH RFC 0/7] Adding core support for wire-MSI bridges Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-15 16:01   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-10-15 19:16     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2015-10-16  8:03       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-10-16  8:45         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-16  1:55 ` Jiang Liu
2015-10-16  8:48   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-11-04 13:34     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-05 12:22       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-11-05 12:25         ` Thomas Gleixner

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