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From: Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>, Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: Gerd Bayer <gbayer@linux.ibm.com>,
	Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
	Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] PCI: s390: Fix use-after-free of PCI bus resources with s390 per-function hotplug
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:08:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5bf4ca0f643bcd59f5761cdd29403433046a9995.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230224041918.GB26067@wunner.de>

On Fri, 2023-02-24 at 05:19 +0100, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 01:53:45PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > Hmm.  Good question.  Off the top of my head, I can't explain the
> > difference between pci_rescan_remove_lock and pci_bus_sem, so I'm
> > confused, too.  I added Lukas in case he has a ready explanation.
> 
> pci_bus_sem is a global lock which protects the "devices" list of all
> pci_bus structs.
> 
> We do have a bunch of places left where the "devices" list is accessed
> without holding pci_bus_sem, though I've tried to slowly eliminate
> them.
> 
> pci_rescan_remove_lock is a global "big kernel lock" which serializes
> any device addition and removal.
> 
> pci_rescan_remove_lock is known to be far too course-grained and thus
> deadlock-prone, particularly if hotplug ports are nested (as is the
> case with Thunderbolt).  It needs to be split up into several smaller
> locks which protect e.g. allocation of resources of a bus (bus numbers
> or MMIO / IO space) and whatever else needs to be protected.  It's just
> that nobody has gotten around to identify what exactly needs to be
> protected, adding the new locks and removing pci_rescan_remove_lock.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Lukas

Thanks for the insights. So from that description I think it might make
sense to do this fix patch with the pci_rescan_remove_lock so it can be
backported. Then we can take the opportunity to add a lock specific to
the allocation/freeing of resources which would then replace at least
this new directly and clearly resource related use of
pci_rescan_remove_lock and potentially others we find.
What do you think?

Thanks,
Niklas

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-28  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-14  9:49 [PATCH RESEND] PCI: s390: Fix use-after-free of PCI bus resources with s390 per-function hotplug Niklas Schnelle
2023-02-17 23:15 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-02-20 12:53   ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-02-22 16:54     ` Niklas Schnelle
2023-02-23 19:53       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-02-24  4:19         ` Lukas Wunner
2023-02-28  9:08           ` Niklas Schnelle [this message]
2023-03-08 18:38             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-02-22 22:02     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-02-23 11:22       ` Niklas Schnelle

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