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From: "Dragan Simic" <dsimic@manjaro.org>
To: "Diederik de Haas" <diederik@cknow-tech.com>
Cc: "Manivannan Sadhasivam" <mani@kernel.org>,
	"Geraldo Nascimento" <geraldogabriel@gmail.com>,
	"Shawn Lin" <shawn.lin@rock-chips.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Heiko Stuebner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Johan Jonker" <jbx6244@gmail.com>,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] PCI: rockchip:  limit RK3399 to 2.5 GT/s to prevent damage
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 11:13:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <656e9b4e-c350-f808-701e-e49e8dad7062@manjaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DF197NIRHLIJ.3LIG9GJGJQLQX@cknow-tech.com>

Hello Diederik,

On Thursday, December 18, 2025 11:01 CET, "Diederik de Haas" <diederik@cknow-tech.com> wrote:
> On Thu Dec 18, 2025 at 10:47 AM CET, Dragan Simic wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 18, 2025 09:05 CET, Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 06:47:05PM -0300, Geraldo Nascimento wrote:
> >> > Shawn Lin from Rockchip has reiterated that there may be danger in using
> >> > their PCIe with 5.0 GT/s speeds. Warn the user if they make a DT change
> >> > from the default and drive at 2.5 GT/s only, even if the DT
> >> > max-link-speed property is invalid or inexistent.
> >> > 
> >> > This change is corroborated by RK3399 official datasheet [1], which
> >> > says maximum link speed for this platform is 2.5 GT/s.
> >> > 
> >> > [1] https://opensource.rock-chips.com/images/d/d7/Rockchip_RK3399_Datasheet_V2.1-20200323.pdf
> >> > 
> >> > Fixes: 956cd99b35a8 ("PCI: rockchip: Separate common code from RC driver")
> >> > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/ffd05070-9879-4468-94e3-b88968b4c21b@rock-chips.com/
> >> > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> >> > Reported-by: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
> >> > Reported-by: Shawn Lin <shawn.lin@rock-chips.com>
> >> > Reviewed-by: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
> >> > Signed-off-by: Geraldo Nascimento <geraldogabriel@gmail.com>
> >> > ---
> >> >  drivers/pci/controller/pcie-rockchip.c | 10 ++++++++--
> >> >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >> > 
> >> > diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/pcie-rockchip.c b/drivers/pci/controller/pcie-rockchip.c
> >> > index 0f88da378805..992ccf4b139e 100644
> >> > --- a/drivers/pci/controller/pcie-rockchip.c
> >> > +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/pcie-rockchip.c
> >> > @@ -66,8 +66,14 @@ int rockchip_pcie_parse_dt(struct rockchip_pcie *rockchip)
> >> >  	}
> >> >  
> >> >  	rockchip->link_gen = of_pci_get_max_link_speed(node);
> >> > -	if (rockchip->link_gen < 0 || rockchip->link_gen > 2)
> >> > -		rockchip->link_gen = 2;
> >> > +	if (rockchip->link_gen < 0 || rockchip->link_gen > 2) {
> >> > +		rockchip->link_gen = 1;
> >> > +		dev_warn(dev, "invalid max-link-speed, set to 2.5 GT/s\n");
> >> > +	}
> >> > +	else if (rockchip->link_gen == 2) {
> >> > +		rockchip->link_gen = 1;
> >> > +		dev_warn(dev, "5.0 GT/s is dangerous, set to 2.5 GT/s\n");
> >> 
> >> What does 'danger' really mean here? Link instability or something else?
> >> Error messages should be precise and not fearmongering.
> >
> > I agree that the original wording is a bit suboptimal, and I'd suggest
> > to Geraldo that the produced warning message is changed to
> >
> >   "5.0 GT/s may cause data corruption, limited to to 2.5 GT/s\n"
> >
> > or something similar, to better reflect the actual underlying issue.
> 
> s/limited to to/therefore limit speed to/ ?

That would work well in a book or an article, while slightly terse
wording is usually preferred in the messages produced by the kernel,
or in log messages in general.  Such an approach compacts as much
information as possible in as few words as possible, while still
remaining (mostly) grammatically correct.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-18 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-17 21:46 [PATCH v2 0/4] PCI: rockchip: 5.0 GT/s speed may be dangerous Geraldo Nascimento
2025-11-17 21:47 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] PCI: rockchip: limit RK3399 to 2.5 GT/s to prevent damage Geraldo Nascimento
2025-12-18  8:05   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-12-18  9:47     ` Dragan Simic
2025-12-18 10:01       ` Diederik de Haas
2025-12-18 10:13         ` Dragan Simic [this message]
2025-12-24  2:24           ` Geraldo Nascimento
2025-12-24  5:18   ` Anand Moon
2025-12-24  5:38     ` Geraldo Nascimento
2025-12-24  8:04       ` Anand Moon
2025-12-24 12:55         ` Dragan Simic
2025-12-24 16:11           ` Anand Moon
2025-12-24 16:52             ` Dragan Simic
2025-12-24 21:57               ` Geraldo Nascimento
2025-11-17 21:47 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] PCI: rockchip-host: comment danger of 5.0 GT/s speed Geraldo Nascimento
2025-11-17 21:47 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] arm64: dts: rockchip: remove dangerous max-link-speed from helios64 Geraldo Nascimento
2025-11-17 21:47 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] arm64: dts: rockchip: remove redundant max-link-speed from nanopi-r4s Geraldo Nascimento
2025-11-18  0:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] PCI: rockchip: 5.0 GT/s speed may be dangerous Shawn Lin
2025-12-22 13:38 ` (subset) " Heiko Stuebner

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