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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: "Fabio M. De Francesco" <fabio.m.de.francesco@linux.intel.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Mahesh J Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.ibm.com>,
	Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@gmail.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>, <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>, <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ACPI: extlog: Trace CPER PCI Express Error Section
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 17:51:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6758f013b5459_10a0832941e@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8286502.jJDZkT8p0M@fdefranc-mobl3>

Fabio M. De Francesco wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 6, 2024 9:56:24 PM GMT+2 Dan Williams wrote:
> > Fabio M. De Francesco wrote:
> > > Currently, extlog_print() (ELOG) only reports CPER PCIe section (UEFI
> > > v2.10, Appendix N.2.7) to the kernel log via print_extlog_rcd().
> > 
> > I think the critical detail is is that print_extlog_rcd() is only
> > triggered when ras_userspace_consumers() returns true. The observation
> > is that ras_userspace_consumers() hides information from the trace path
> > when the intended purpose of it was to hide duplicate emissions to the
> > kernel log when userspace is watching the tracepoints.
> >
> > Setting aside whether ras_userspace_consumers() is still a good idea or
> > not, it is obvious that this patch as is may surprise environments that
> > start seeing kernel error logs where the kernel was silent before.
> >
> > I think the path of least surprise would be to make sure that
> > pci_print_aer() optionally skips emitting to the kernel log when not
> > needed wanted.
> 
> Sorry for replying so late...
> 
> I'm not entirely sure that users would not prefer to be surprised by 
> _finally_ seeing kernel error logs for failing PCIe components. I suspect 
> that users might have been confused by not seeing any output.

2 notes:

* New KERN_ERR prints are often found to be unwelcome. When the kernel starts
  printing new error messages it causes sysadmins to scramble.

* The future of RAS is trace-events. Any new RAS messages to the kernel
  log need to ask the question, "is userspace better served by
  registering for a RAS trace event, rather than parsing kernel log
  messsages".

[..]
> I need to be sure that I understood...
> 
> void pci_print_aer(char *level, struct pci_dev *dev, int aer_severity,
>                    struct aer_capability_regs *aer)
> {
>         [...]
> 
>         if (printk_get_level(level) <= console_loglevel) {
>                 pci_err(dev, "aer_status: 0x%08x, aer_mask: 0x%08x\n",
>                         status, mask);

No, the code would be:

    pci_printk(level, dev, "aer_status: 0x%08x, aer_mask: 0x%08x\n", status, mask);

...i.e. just pass @level rather than open code "if
(printk_get_level(level) <= console_loglevel)".

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-11  1:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-27 14:43 [PATCH 0/2] Make ELOG log and trace consistently with GHES Fabio M. De Francesco
2024-05-27 14:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] ACPI: extlog: Trace CPER Non-standard Section Body Fabio M. De Francesco
2024-08-06 19:21   ` Dan Williams
2024-08-06 21:07   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-05-27 14:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] ACPI: extlog: Trace CPER PCI Express Error Section Fabio M. De Francesco
2024-08-06 19:56   ` Dan Williams
2024-10-23 13:35     ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2024-12-11  1:51       ` Dan Williams [this message]
2024-08-06 21:31   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-07 20:28     ` Dan Williams
2024-08-07 20:31       ` Dan Williams
2024-07-23 13:43 ` [PATCH 0/2] Make ELOG log and trace consistently with GHES Fabio M. De Francesco

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