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From: <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Jinhui Guo <guojinhui.liam@bytedance.com>, <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: <alexanderduyck@fb.com>, <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	<bvanassche@acm.org>, <dakr@kernel.org>, <frederic@kernel.org>,
	<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, <guojinhui.liam@bytedance.com>,
	<helgaas@kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>, <rafael@kernel.org>, <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] Add NUMA-node-aware synchronous probing to driver core
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 19:37:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <697832e9f00c3_309510076@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260126091749.307-1-guojinhui.liam@bytedance.com>

Jinhui Guo wrote:
[..]
> > I like that from a global benefit perspective, but not necessarily from
> > a regression perspective. Is there a minimal fix to PCI to make its
> > current workqueue unbound, then if that goes well come back and move all
> > devices into this scheme?
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> Thank you for your time, and apologies for the delayed reply.

I would not have read an earlier reply over this weekend anyway, so no
worries.

> I understand your concerns about stability and hope for better PCI regression
> handling. However, I believe introducing NUMA-node awareness to the driver
> core's asynchronous probe path is the better solution:
> 
> 1. The asynchronous path already uses async_schedule_dev() with queue_work_node()
>    to bind workers to specific NUMA nodes—this causes no side effects to driver
>    probing.
> 2. I initially submitted a PCI-only fix [1], but handling asynchronous probing in
>    PCI driver proved difficult. Using current_is_async() works but feels fragile.
>    After discussions with Bjorn and Danilo [2][3], moving the solution to driver
>    core makes distinguishing async/sync probing straightforward. Testing shows
>    minimal impact on synchronous probe time.
> 3. If you prefer a PCI-only approach, we could add a flag in struct device_driver
>    (default false) that PCI sets during registration. This limits the new path to
>    PCI devices while others retain existing behavior. The extra code is ~10 lines
>    and can be removed once confidence is established.

I am open to this option. One demonstration of how this conversion can
cause odd surprises is what it does to locking assumptions. For example,
I ran into the work_on_cpu(..., local_pci_probe...) behavior with some
of the work-in-progress confidential device work [1]. I was surprised
when lockdep_assert_held() returned false in a driver probe context.

I like that buses can opt-in to this behavior vs it being forced.
Similar to how async-behavior is handled as an opt-in.

[1]: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/devsec/tsm.git/tree/drivers/base/coco.c?h=staging#n86

> 4. I'm committed to supporting this: I'll include "Fixes:" tags for any fallout
>    and provide patches within a month of any report. Since the logic mirrors the
>    core async helper, risk should be low—but I'll take full responsibility
>    regardless.

Sounds good.

With the above change you can add:

Acked-by: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>

...and I may carve out some time to upgrade that to Reviewed-by on the
next posting.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-27  3:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-22 14:52 [PATCH v2 0/3] Add NUMA-node-aware synchronous probing to driver core Jinhui Guo
2026-01-22 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] driver core: Introduce helper function __device_attach_driver_scan() Jinhui Guo
2026-01-22 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] driver core: Add NUMA-node awareness to the synchronous probe path Jinhui Guo
2026-01-22 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] PCI: Clean up NUMA-node awareness in pci_bus_type probe Jinhui Guo
2026-01-24  1:04 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Add NUMA-node-aware synchronous probing to driver core dan.j.williams
2026-01-26  9:17   ` Jinhui Guo
2026-01-27  2:32     ` Jinhui Guo
2026-01-27  3:37     ` dan.j.williams [this message]

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