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From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: "Natikar, Basavaraj" <Basavaraj.Natikar@amd.com>,
	"bhelgaas@google.com" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"thomas@glanzmann.de" <thomas@glanzmann.de>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Add quirk to clear MSI-X
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 17:52:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7bb0b977-be26-bf28-7bf1-b4e1b83f33c7@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230320220802.GA2326747@bhelgaas>


>> My point is that's only needed if the hardware wasn't initialized correctly.
>> If it's initialized properly then it behaves like you expect.
> So is this something that BIOS must initialize, and then it's locked
> so that by the time Linux shows up, this one-time initialization can
> no longer be done?
>
> If Linux *could* do this one-time initialization, and subsequent
> D0/D3hot transitions worked per spec, that would be awesome because we
> wouldn't have to worry about making sure we run the quirk at every
> possible transition.

It can be changed again at runtime.

That's exactly what we did in amdgpu for the case that the user didn't 
disable integrated GPU.

We did the init for the IP block during amdgpu's HW init phase.

I see 3 ways to address this:

1) As submitted or similar (on every D state transition work around the 
issue).
2) Mimic the Windows behavior in Linux by disabling MSI-X during D3 
entry and re-enabling on D0.
3) Look for a way to get to and program that register outside of amdgpu.

There are merits to all those approaches, what do you think?
>>> Let's say somebody runs coreboot on this platform.  Does coreboot need
>>> this device-specific knowledge?
>> Yes; the exact same bug will happen with a coreboot implementation that had
>> the initialization done improperly.
> My claim is that this means the device doesn't conform to the spec.
> If we add a conforming PCI device that neither the OS nor the firmware
> has ever seen before, standard generic functionality like power
> management should just work.
>
> Bjorn

Yeah as it's configured here I agree with you.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-20 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-06  7:23 [PATCH] PCI: Add quirk to clear MSI-X Basavaraj Natikar
2023-03-06  8:14 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2023-03-08 22:44 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-08 23:04   ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-09  7:34     ` Basavaraj Natikar
2023-03-09 18:25       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-09 18:32         ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-09 22:30           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-10  0:57             ` Mario Limonciello
2023-03-10  7:41               ` Basavaraj Natikar
2023-03-10 22:13               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-20  1:32                 ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-20 17:14                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-20 17:20                     ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-20 19:36                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-20 19:47                         ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-20 21:30                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-20 21:37                             ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-20 22:08                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-20 22:52                                 ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2023-03-21 11:07                                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-28 13:15                                     ` Basavaraj Natikar
2023-03-28 13:25                                       ` Limonciello, Mario
2023-03-28 17:42                                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-03-10  7:22         ` Basavaraj Natikar

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