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From: Mario Limonciello <superm1@kernel.org>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: "David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Lukas Wunner" <lukas@wunner.de>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Lu Baolu" <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Jaroslav Kysela" <perex@perex.cz>,
	"Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.com>,
	"open list:DRM DRIVERS" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:INTEL IOMMU (VT-d)" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"open list:PCI SUBSYSTEM" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:VFIO DRIVER" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:SOUND" <linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Dadap" <ddadap@nvidia.com>,
	"Mario Limonciello" <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 9/9] PCI: Add a new 'boot_display' attribute
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 19:28:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <860bcc59-f0d0-4c8d-865c-89127c213cdf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250721230013.GA2759370@bhelgaas>



On 7/21/25 6:00 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 12:44:11PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>> On 7/18/2025 12:36 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 12:29:05PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>>> On 7/18/2025 12:25 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 12:38:12PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>>>>> From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On systems with multiple GPUs there can be uncertainty which GPU is the
>>>>>> primary one used to drive the display at bootup. In some desktop
>>>>>> environments this can lead to increased power consumption because
>>>>>> secondary GPUs may be used for rendering and never go to a low power
>>>>>> state. In order to disambiguate this add a new sysfs attribute
>>>>>> 'boot_display' that uses the output of video_is_primary_device() to
>>>>>> populate whether a PCI device was used for driving the display.
>>>>>
>>>>>> +What:		/sys/bus/pci/devices/.../boot_display
>>>>>> +Date:		October 2025
>>>>>> +Contact:	Linux PCI developers <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
>>>>>> +Description:
>>>>>> +		This file indicates that displays connected to the device were
>>>>>> +		used to display the boot sequence.  If a display connected to
>>>>>> +		the device was used to display the boot sequence the file will
>>>>>> +		be present and contain "1".
>>>>>
>>>>>>     int __must_check pci_create_sysfs_dev_files(struct pci_dev *pdev)
>>>>>>     {
>>>>>> +	int retval;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>>     	if (!sysfs_initialized)
>>>>>>     		return -EACCES;
>>>>>> +	retval = pci_create_boot_display_file(pdev);
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to Mani's question about whether /sys/bus/pci/ is
>>>>> the right place for this (which is a very good question), it's
>>>>> also been pointed out to me that we've been trying to get rid
>>>>> of pci_create_sysfs_dev_files() for years.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it's possible to make this a static attribute that would be
>>>>> much, much cleaner.
>>>>
>>>> Right - I tried to do this, but the problem is at the time the
>>>> PCI device is created the information needed to make the
>>>> judgement isn't ready.  The options end up being:
>>>> * a sysfs file for every display device with 0/1
>>>> * a sysfs file that is not accurate until later in the boot
>>>
>>> What's missing?  The specifics might be helpful if someone has
>>> another crack at getting rid of pci_create_sysfs_dev_files() in
>>> the future.
>>
>> The underlying SCREEN_INFO code tries to walk through all the PCI
>> devices in a loop, but at the time all the devices are walked the
>> memory regions associated with the device weren't populated.
> 
> Which loop are you referring to that walks through all the PCI
> devices?  I see this:
> 
>    efifb_set_system
>      for_each_pci_dev(dev)
> 
> but that only looks at VGA devices and IIUC you also want to look at
> non-VGA GPUs.
> 
> I don't see a loop in *this* series, where the screen_info path looks
> like this:
> 
>    pci_create_boot_display_file
>      video_is_primary_device
>        screen_info_pci_dev      # added by "fbcon: Use screen info to find primary device"
>          screen_info_resources
>          __screen_info_pci_dev
> 
> and we're basically matching the screen_info base/address with BAR
> values.
> 
> The usual problem is that BARs may not have been assigned by the time
> pci_device_add() -> device_add() creates the static attributes.
> 
> So we call pci_assign_unassigned_root_bus_resources() to assign all
> the BARs.  Then we call pci_create_sysfs_dev_files(), where
> pci_create_resource_files() creates a "resource%d" file for each BAR.
> 
> But since we're trying to find the GPU that was used by BIOS, I assume
> its BARs were programmed by BIOS and we shouldn't have to wait until
> after pci_assign_unassigned_root_bus_resources().
> 
> Bjorn

Yes it was screen_info_pci_dev() and __screen_info_pci_dev().  The 
resources weren't ready on the first call into __screen_info_pci_dev().

That's why the attribute needed to be created later.  But the sysfs 
group update or using DRM both avoid this problem and are totally fine 
alternatives.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-22  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-17 17:38 [PATCH v9 0/9] Adjust fbcon console device detection Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 1/9] PCI: Add helper for checking if a PCI device is a display controller Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 2/9] vfio/pci: Use pci_is_display() Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 3/9] vga_switcheroo: " Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 4/9] iommu/vt-d: " Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 5/9] ALSA: hda: " Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 6/9] Fix access to video_is_primary_device() when compiled without CONFIG_VIDEO Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 7/9] PCI/VGA: Replace vga_is_firmware_default() with a screen info check Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 8/9] fbcon: Use screen info to find primary device Mario Limonciello
2025-07-22 14:38   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-22 14:45     ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-22 15:33       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-22 15:39         ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v9 9/9] PCI: Add a new 'boot_display' attribute Mario Limonciello
2025-07-18 17:25   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-18 17:29     ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-18 17:36       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-18 17:44         ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-20  6:05           ` Lukas Wunner
2025-07-21 23:00           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-22  0:28             ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2025-07-22  1:59               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-22  4:01                 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-17 20:56 ` [PATCH v9 0/9] Adjust fbcon console device detection Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-24 18:36   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-24 18:41     ` Mario Limonciello

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