From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [patch V2 06/40] PCI/MSI: Provide static key for parent mask/unmask
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 15:05:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lehfurij.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86r0r7cpks.wl-maz@kernel.org>
On Tue, May 23 2023 at 11:25, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Mon, 22 May 2023 15:19:39 +0100,
> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>> On the other hand for PCI/MSI[x] the mask/unmask operations are not in
>> the hot path as PCI/MSI[x] are strictly edge. Mask/unmask is only
>> happening on startup, shutdown and when an interrupt arrives after
>> disable_irq() incremented the lazy disable counter.
>>
>> For regular interrupt handling mask/unmask is not involved.
>>
>> So to avoid that global key we can let the parent domain set a new flag,
>> e.g. MSI_FLAG_PCI_MSI_MASK_PARENT, in msi_parent_ops::supported_flags
>> and let the PCI/MSI core code query that information when the per device
>> domain is created and select the appropriate template or fixup the
>> callbacks after the domain is created.
>>
>> Does that address your concerns?
>
> It does to a certain extent.
>
> But what I'd really like is that in the most common case where the
> interrupt controller is capable of masking MSIs, the PCI/MSI
> *enabling* becomes the responsibility of the PCI core code and not the
> IRQ code.
>
> The IRQ code should ideally only be concerned with the masking of the
> interrupt at the irqchip level, and not beyond that. And that'd solve
> the Xen problem by merely ignoring it.
>
> If we have HW out there that cannot mask MSIs at the interrupt
> controller level, then we'd have to fallback to device-side masking,
> which doesn't really work in general (MultiMSI being my favourite
> example). My gut feeling is that this is rare, but I'm pretty sure it
> exists.
Sure. There are 3 parts involved:
[Device]--->[PCI/MSI]---->[GIC]
irqchip irqchip
Controlling the interrupt machinery in the device happens at the device
driver level and is conceptually independent of the interrupt
manangement code. The device driver has no access to the PCI/MSI irqchip
and all it can do is to enable/disable the source of the interrupt in
the device.
For the interrupt management code the job is to ensure that an interrupt
can be prevented from disrupting the OS operation independent of the
device driver correctness.
As a matter of fact we know that PCI/MSI masking ranges from not
possible over flaky to properly working. So we can't reliably prevent
that a rougue device spams the PCIe bus with messages.
Which means that we should utilize the fact that the next interrupt chip
in the hierarchy can mask reliably. I wish I could disable individual
vectors at the local APIC level on x86...
Now the question is whether we want to make this conditional depending
on what the PCI/MSI[X] hardware advertises or just keep it simple and do
it unconditionally.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-23 13:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-21 14:39 [patch V2 00/40] genirq, irqchip: Convert ARM MSI handling to per device MSI domains Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 01/40] irqchip/irq-mvebu-icu: Fix works by chance pointer assignment Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-24 12:50 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 02/40] ACPI/IORT: Make prototype of iort_pmsi_get_dev_id() always available Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 15:13 ` Robin Murphy
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 03/40] irqchip/gic-v2m: Include arm-gic-common.h Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-24 12:51 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 04/40] irqchip/gic-v2m: Mark a few functions __init Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-24 12:54 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 05/40] irqchip/ti-sci-inta: Fix kernel doc Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-24 12:54 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 06/40] PCI/MSI: Provide static key for parent mask/unmask Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-24 13:04 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-24 13:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-24 13:38 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-25 0:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 14:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-23 10:25 ` Marc Zyngier
2023-05-23 13:05 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-05-31 8:35 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 07/40] irqchip/gic-v3: Make gic_irq_domain_select() robust for zero parameter count Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 08/40] genirq/irqdomain: Remove the param count restriction from select() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 09/40] genirq/msi: Extend msi_parent_ops Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 10/40] irqchip: Provide irq-gic-lib Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 11/40] irqchip/gic-v3-its: Provide MSI parent infrastructure Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 12/40] irqchip/gic-msi-lib: Prepare for PCI MSI/MSIX Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 13/40] irqchip/gic-v3-its: Provide MSI parent for PCI/MSI[-X] Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 14/40] genirq/irqdomain: Add BUS_DOMAIN_DEVICE_MSI Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 15/40] irqchip/gic-msi-lib: Prepare for DEVICE MSI to replace platform MSI Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 16/40] platform-msi: Prepare for real per device domains Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 17/40] irqchip: Convert all platform MSI users to the new API Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 18/40] genirq/msi: Provide optional translation op Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 19/40] genirq/msi: Split msi_domain_alloc_irq_at() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 20/40] genirq/msi: Provide BUS DEVICE_MSI_WIRED Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 21/40] genirq/msi: Optionally use dev->fwnode for device domain Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 22/40] genirq/msi: Provide allocation/free functions for "wired" MSI interrupts Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 23/40] genirq/irqdomain: Reroute device MSI create_mapping Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 24/40] irqchip/mbigen: Prepare for real per device MSI Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:39 ` [patch V2 25/40] irqchip/gic-msi-lib: Prepare for DOMAIN_BUS_WIRED_TO_MSI Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 26/40] irqchip/gic-v3-its: Switch platform MSI to MSI parent Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 27/40] irqchip/mbigen: Remove platform_msi_create_device_domain() fallback Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 28/40] genirq/msi: Remove platform_msi_create_device_domain() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 29/40] genirq/gic-v3-mbi: Remove unused wired MSI mechanics Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 30/40] genirq/gic-v3-mbi: Switch to MSI parent Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 31/40] irqchip/gic-v2m: Switch to device MSI Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 32/40] genirq/msi: Provide MSI_FLAG_PARENT_PM_DEV Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 33/40] irqchip/imx-mu-msi: Switch to MSI parent Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-28 20:47 ` Frank Li
2022-11-28 21:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 34/40] irqchip/irq-mvebu-icu: Prepare for real per device MSI Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 35/40] irqchip/mvebu-gicp: Switch to MSI parent Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 36/40] irqchip/mvebu-odmi: Switch to parent MSI Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 37/40] irqchip/irq-mvebu-sei: Switch to MSI parent Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 38/40] irqchip/irq-mvebu-icu: Remove platform MSI leftovers Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 39/40] genirq/msi: " Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 14:40 ` [patch V2 40/40] genirq/msi: Move msi_device_data to core Thomas Gleixner
2023-01-11 19:29 ` [patch V2 00/40] genirq, irqchip: Convert ARM MSI handling to per device MSI domains Frank Li
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