From: Philipp Stanner <pstanner@redhat.com>
To: andy.shevchenko@gmail.com
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
dakr@redhat.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Make PCI's devres API more consistent
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 09:48:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <96f355a41bf42c6a604aec37449d35246395d929.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5e760f104c75efe37100cee5a26b7ee3581f03b4.camel@redhat.com>
On Wed, 2024-01-17 at 10:59 +0100, Philipp Stanner wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-01-16 at 23:17 +0200, andy.shevchenko@gmail.com wrote:
> > Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 03:46:11PM +0100, Philipp Stanner kirjoitti:
[...]
> >
> >
> > > PCI's devres API suffers several weaknesses:
> > >
> > > 1. There are functions prefixed with pcim_. Those are always
> > > managed
> > > counterparts to never-managed functions prefixed with pci_ –
> > > or
> > > so one
> > > would like to think. There are some apparently unmanaged
> > > functions
> > > (all region-request / release functions, and pci_intx()) which
> > > suddenly become managed once the user has initialized the
> > > device
> > > with
> > > pcim_enable_device() instead of pci_enable_device(). This
> > > "sometimes
> > > yes, sometimes no" nature of those functions is confusing and
> > > therefore bug-provoking. In fact, it has already caused a bug
> > > in
> > > DRM.
> > > The last patch in this series fixes that bug.
> > > 2. iomappings: Instead of giving each mapping its own callback,
> > > the
> > > existing API uses a statically allocated struct tracking one
> > > mapping
> > > per bar. This is not extensible. Especially, you can't create
> > > _ranged_ managed mappings that way, which many drivers want.
> > > 3. Managed request functions only exist as "plural versions" with
> > > a
> > > bit-mask as a parameter. That's quite over-engineered
> > > considering
> > > that each user only ever mapps one, maybe two bars.
> > >
> > > This series:
> > > - add a set of new "singular" devres functions that use devres
> > > the
> > > way
> > > its intended, with one callback per resource.
> > > - deprecates the existing iomap-table mechanism.
> > > - deprecates the hybrid nature of pci_ functions.
> > > - preserves backwards compatibility so that drivers using the
> > > existing
> > > API won't notice any changes.
> > > - adds documentation, especially some warning users about the
> > > complicated nature of PCI's devres.
> >
> > Instead of adding pcim_intx(), please provide proper one for
> > pci_alloc_irq_vectors(). Ideally it would be nice to deprecate
> > old IRQ management functions in PCI core and delete them in the
> > future.
> >
>
> In order to deprecate the intermingling with half-managed hyprid
> devres
> in pci.c, you need to have pci_intx() be backwards compatible. Unless
> you can remove it at once.
> And the least broken way to do that I thought would be pcim_intx(),
> because that's consistent with how I make pci_request_region() & Co.
> call into their managed counterparts.
>
> There are 25 users of pci_intx().
> We'd have to look how many of them call pcim_enable_device() and how
> easy they would be to port to... pci_alloc_irq_vectors() you say? I
> haven't used that before. Would have to look into it and see how we
> could do that.
Alright, so I thought about that a bit.
So pci_intx() is the old way to do it and you would like to deprecate
it for good. Understood, makes sense
This series, however, is about deprecating PCI's broken devres
implementation – not about deprecating outdated PCI features in
general.
So I wouldn't like to touch anything here unless cleaning up devres
demands it.
Now the question would be: how can we solve this?
My suggestion would be:
Let's implement pcim_intx(), but only make it visible through
drivers/pci/pci.h. So we won't make it usable for other drivers, don't
EXPORT_SYMBOL() it and basically only have it as a tool to move the
devres-part clearly and cleanly from pci.c to devres.c
Further deprecating old PCI stuff could then be done in a separate
series.
ACK?
P.
>
>
> P.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-18 8:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-15 14:46 [PATCH 00/10] Make PCI's devres API more consistent Philipp Stanner
2024-01-15 14:46 ` [PATCH 01/10] pci: add new set of devres functions Philipp Stanner
2024-01-16 18:44 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-01-17 8:54 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-01-19 22:52 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-01-16 21:15 ` andy.shevchenko
2024-01-17 9:21 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-01-15 14:46 ` [PATCH 02/10] pci: deprecate iomap-table functions Philipp Stanner
2024-01-16 21:27 ` andy.shevchenko
2024-01-17 9:40 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-01-15 14:46 ` [PATCH 03/10] pci: warn users about complicated devres nature Philipp Stanner
2024-01-15 14:46 ` [PATCH 04/10] pci: devres: make devres region requests consistent Philipp Stanner
2024-01-16 21:29 ` andy.shevchenko
2024-01-15 14:46 ` [PATCH 05/10] pci: move enabled status bit to pci_dev struct Philipp Stanner
2024-01-15 14:46 ` [PATCH 06/10] pci: move pinned " Philipp Stanner
2024-01-16 21:34 ` andy.shevchenko
2024-01-17 9:02 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-01-15 14:46 ` [PATCH 07/10] pci: devres: give mwi its own callback Philipp Stanner
2024-01-16 18:35 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-01-15 14:46 ` [PATCH 08/10] pci: devres: give pci(m)_intx " Philipp Stanner
2024-01-16 21:37 ` andy.shevchenko
2024-01-15 14:46 ` [PATCH 09/10] pci: devres: remove legacy pcim_release() Philipp Stanner
2024-01-16 21:40 ` andy.shevchenko
2024-01-17 13:49 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-01-15 14:46 ` [PATCH 10/10] drm/vboxvideo: fix mapping leaks Philipp Stanner
2024-01-16 18:29 ` [PATCH 00/10] Make PCI's devres API more consistent Bjorn Helgaas
2024-01-16 21:17 ` andy.shevchenko
2024-01-17 9:59 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-01-18 8:48 ` Philipp Stanner [this message]
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