From: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
Pasha Tatashin <tatashin@google.com>,
Jason Miu <jasonmiu@google.com>,
Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
Adithya Jayachandran <ajayachandra@nvidia.com>,
Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>, William Tu <witu@nvidia.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/10] PCI/LUO: Save and restore driver name
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 14:39:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACePvbVXZ-rPmBi30eAO-2oF5K5hzQqQPo17M6hV7Pn4Dxrg9g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250930163732.GP2695987@ziepe.ca>
On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 9:37 AM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
> As I said, I would punt all of this to the initrd and let the initrd
> explicitly bind drivers.
You still need a mechanism to prevent after the PCI bridge scan,
create the pci_devices, not auto probe the drivers. If it is not
driver_override, it will be some new PCI API and liveupdate is the
first user of it.
I was afraid to add a new liveupdate specific PCI API for this
purpose. However, if that is what upstream wants, I can certainly do
it in the next version.
> The only behavior we need from the kernel is to not autobind some
> drivers so userspace can control it, and in a LUO type environment
> userspace should well know what drivers go where - or can get it from
> a preceeding kernel from a memfd.
There are two slightly different things here:
1) modprobe the driver. That is typically control by udev.
2) auto probing the drive after the driver has been loaded or PCI
device scanned.
In your envisioning, the initrd autobind controls both of the above
two spec of things, right?
Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-02 21:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-16 7:45 [PATCH v2 00/10] LUO: PCI subsystem (phase I) Chris Li
2025-09-16 7:45 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] PCI/LUO: Register with Liveupdate Orchestrator Chris Li
2025-09-30 15:15 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-30 23:41 ` Chris Li
2025-09-30 15:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-30 23:38 ` Chris Li
2025-09-16 7:45 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] PCI/LUO: Create requested liveupdate device list Chris Li
2025-09-29 17:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-30 2:13 ` Chris Li
2025-09-30 16:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-03 7:09 ` Chris Li
2025-10-03 5:33 ` Chris Li
2025-10-03 14:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-03 21:06 ` Chris Li
2025-09-30 15:26 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-03 6:57 ` Chris Li
2025-09-16 7:45 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] PCI/LUO: Forward prepare()/freeze()/cancel() callbacks to driver Chris Li
2025-09-29 17:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-30 2:11 ` Chris Li
2025-09-30 16:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 18:54 ` David Matlack
2025-10-02 20:57 ` Chris Li
2025-10-02 21:31 ` David Matlack
2025-10-02 23:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 23:42 ` David Matlack
2025-10-03 12:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-03 16:03 ` David Matlack
2025-10-03 16:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-03 16:28 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-03 16:56 ` David Matlack
2025-10-03 5:24 ` Chris Li
2025-10-03 12:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-03 16:27 ` David Matlack
2025-10-03 16:41 ` Vipin Sharma
2025-10-03 17:44 ` Chris Li
2025-10-03 5:17 ` Chris Li
2025-10-02 20:44 ` Chris Li
2025-09-30 15:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-02 20:38 ` Chris Li
2025-10-03 6:18 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-03 7:26 ` Chris Li
2025-10-03 12:26 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-03 17:49 ` Chris Li
2025-10-03 18:27 ` David Matlack
2025-10-03 21:10 ` Chris Li
2025-09-16 7:45 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] PCI/LUO: Restore state at PCI enumeration Chris Li
2025-09-16 7:45 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] PCI/LUO: Forward finish callbacks to drivers Chris Li
2025-09-16 7:45 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] PCI/LUO: Save and restore driver name Chris Li
2025-09-29 17:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-30 2:10 ` Chris Li
2025-09-30 13:02 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-30 13:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-30 14:53 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-30 15:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-30 15:56 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-01 5:06 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-01 21:03 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-02 6:09 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-02 13:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 22:30 ` Chris Li
2025-09-30 15:41 ` Chris Li
2025-10-01 5:13 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-10-02 22:05 ` Chris Li
2025-09-30 16:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 21:39 ` Chris Li [this message]
2025-10-03 14:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 7:45 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] PCI/LUO: Add liveupdate to pcieport driver Chris Li
2025-09-16 7:45 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] PCI/LUO: Add pci_liveupdate_get_driver_data() Chris Li
2025-09-16 7:45 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] PCI/LUO: Avoid write to bus master at boot Chris Li
2025-09-29 17:14 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-16 7:45 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] PCI: pci-lu-stub: Add a stub driver for Live Update testing Chris Li
2025-09-27 17:13 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] LUO: PCI subsystem (phase I) Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-27 18:05 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 15:04 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-29 18:13 ` Chris Li
2025-10-07 23:32 ` Chris Li
2025-10-08 23:00 ` David Matlack
2025-10-09 17:12 ` Chris Li
2025-10-09 23:21 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-10 4:19 ` Chris Li
2025-10-10 23:49 ` Jason Miu
2025-10-13 13:58 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-14 16:11 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-14 20:44 ` Chris Li
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