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From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: Christian Schrefl <chrisi.schrefl@gmail.com>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	bhelgaas@google.com, kwilczynski@kernel.org, zhiw@nvidia.com,
	cjia@nvidia.com, jhubbard@nvidia.com, bskeggs@nvidia.com,
	acurrid@nvidia.com, joelagnelf@nvidia.com, ttabi@nvidia.com,
	acourbot@nvidia.com, ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, gary@garyguo.net, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
	a.hindborg@kernel.org, aliceryhl@google.com, tmgross@umich.edu,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] rust: devres: implement Devres::access_with()
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 20:18:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D9GUJPGAOB21.3UTRD7M9OPLFJ@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <78853ac7-c9d2-4485-bbb3-859d2425e729@gmail.com>

On Sat Apr 26, 2025 at 7:18 PM CEST, Christian Schrefl wrote:
> On 26.04.25 7:08 PM, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 06:53:10PM +0200, Christian Schrefl wrote:
>>> On 26.04.25 3:30 PM, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>>>> Implement a direct accessor for the data stored within the Devres for
>>>> cases where we can proof that we own a reference to a Device<Bound>
>>>> (i.e. a bound device) of the same device that was used to create the
>>>> corresponding Devres container.
>>>>
>>>> Usually, when accessing the data stored within a Devres container, it is
>>>> not clear whether the data has been revoked already due to the device
>>>> being unbound and, hence, we have to try whether the access is possible
>>>> and subsequently keep holding the RCU read lock for the duration of the
>>>> access.
>>>>
>>>> However, when we can proof that we hold a reference to Device<Bound>
>>>> matching the device the Devres container has been created with, we can
>>>> guarantee that the device is not unbound for the duration of the
>>>> lifetime of the Device<Bound> reference and, hence, it is not possible
>>>> for the data within the Devres container to be revoked.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, in this case, we can bypass the atomic check and the RCU read
>>>> lock, which is a great optimization and simplification for drivers.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
>>>> ---
>>>>  rust/kernel/devres.rs | 35 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  1 file changed, 35 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/rust/kernel/devres.rs b/rust/kernel/devres.rs
>>>> index 1e58f5d22044..ec2cd9cdda8b 100644
>>>> --- a/rust/kernel/devres.rs
>>>> +++ b/rust/kernel/devres.rs
>>>> @@ -181,6 +181,41 @@ pub fn new_foreign_owned(dev: &Device<Bound>, data: T, flags: Flags) -> Result {
>>>>  
>>>>          Ok(())
>>>>      }
>>>> +
>>>> +    /// Obtain `&'a T`, bypassing the [`Revocable`].
>>>> +    ///
>>>> +    /// This method allows to directly obtain a `&'a T`, bypassing the [`Revocable`], by presenting
>>>> +    /// a `&'a Device<Bound>` of the same [`Device`] this [`Devres`] instance has been created with.
>>>> +    ///
>>>> +    /// An error is returned if `dev` does not match the same [`Device`] this [`Devres`] instance
>>>> +    /// has been created with.
>>>
>>> I would prefer this as a `# Errors` section.
>> 
>> I can make this an # Errors section.
>> 
>>> Also are there any cases where this is actually wanted as an error?
>>> I'm not very familiar with the `Revocable` infrastructure,
>>> but I would assume a mismatch here to be a bug in almost every case,
>>> so a panic here might be reasonable.
>> 
>> Passing in a device reference that doesn't match the device the Devres instance
>> was created with would indeed be a bug, but a panic isn't the solution, since we
>> can handle this error just fine.
>> 
>> We never panic the whole kernel unless things go so utterly wrong that we can't
>> can't recover from it; e.g. if otherwise we'd likely corrupt memory, etc.
>>> (I would be fine with a reason for using an error here in the 
>>> commit message or documentation/comments)
>> 
>> I don't think we need this in this commit or the method's documentation, it's a
>> general kernel rule not to panic unless there's really no other way.
>
> Alright I'm fine with it then.
>
> I just don't think that most users of the function would be able to
> gracefully recover from that other than failing the probe
> or whatever, but it makes sense to allow the caller to deal with this.

Failing the probe *is* "gracefully" handling the error. As Danilo said,
a panic is the last resort when the whole world is on fire and you want
to avoid doing more damage to the system.

---
Cheers,
Benno


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-26 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-26 13:30 [PATCH 0/3] Devres optimization with bound devices Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 13:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] rust: revocable: implement Revocable::access() Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 16:44   ` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-26 16:54     ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-26 17:01       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 17:09         ` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-26 17:19         ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-26 17:03       ` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-26 20:16         ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-26 20:24   ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-26 21:18     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 13:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] rust: devres: implement Devres::access_with() Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 16:53   ` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-26 17:08     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 17:18       ` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-26 20:18         ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-04-27 13:15   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-04-27 14:17     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 13:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] samples: rust: pci: take advantage of Devres::access_with() Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 20:30   ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-26 21:26     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-27  8:56       ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-27 10:20         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-27 17:05           ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-26 17:09 ` [PATCH 0/3] Devres optimization with bound devices Boqun Feng
2025-04-26 17:14   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-26 17:17     ` Boqun Feng
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-04-26 20:28 [PATCH 2/3] rust: devres: implement Devres::access_with() Benno Lossin
2025-04-26 21:24 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-27  8:41   ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-27 10:10     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-27 17:11       ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-27 17:30         ` Danilo Krummrich

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