From: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
To: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: <rafael@kernel.org>, <ojeda@kernel.org>, <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
<boqun.feng@gmail.com>, <gary@garyguo.net>,
<bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>, <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
<a.hindborg@kernel.org>, <aliceryhl@google.com>,
<tmgross@umich.edu>, <david.m.ertman@intel.com>,
<ira.weiny@intel.com>, <leon@kernel.org>,
<kwilczynski@kernel.org>, <bhelgaas@google.com>,
<rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Device: generic accessors for drvdata + Driver::unbind()
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2025 16:18:09 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB5N1F62UP4U.2XQ69N3FE1HWP@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGO7BP1t-A_CQ700@pollux>
On Tue Jul 1, 2025 at 7:40 PM JST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> > This makes it inefficient (but not impossible) to access device
>> > resources, e.g. to write device registers, and impossible to call device
>> > methods, which are only accessible under the Core device context.
>> >
>> > In order to solve this, add an additional callback for (1), which we
>> > call unbind().
>> >
>> > The reason for calling it unbind() is that, unlike remove(), it is *only*
>> > meant to be used to perform teardown operations on the device (1), but
>> > *not* to release resources (2).
>>
>> Ick. I get the idea, but unbind() is going to get confusing fast.
>> Determining what is, and is not, a "resource" is going to be hard over
>> time. In fact, how would you define it? :)
>
> I think the definition is simple: All teardown operations a driver needs a
> &Device<Core> for go into unbind().
>
> Whereas drop() really only is the destructor of the driver's private data.
>
>> Is "teardown" only allowed to write to resources, but not free them?
>
> "Teardown" is everything that involves interaction with the device when the
> driver is unbound.
>
> However, we can't free things there, that happens in the automatically when the
> destructor of the driver's private data is called, i.e. in drop().
Can't we somehow make a (renamed) `unbind` receive full ownership of the
driver's private data, such that it will be freed (and its `drop`
implementation called) before `unbind` returns? Or do we necessarily
need to free that data later?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-07 7:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-21 19:43 [PATCH 0/8] Device: generic accessors for drvdata + Driver::unbind() Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-21 19:43 ` [PATCH 1/8] rust: device: introduce device::Internal Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 9:26 ` Greg KH
2025-07-01 10:41 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 12:32 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-03 15:06 ` Greg KH
2025-06-21 19:43 ` [PATCH 2/8] rust: device: add drvdata accessors Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 9:27 ` Greg KH
2025-07-01 10:58 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 13:12 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-05 11:15 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-05 15:06 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-05 21:38 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-07 7:46 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-07-07 9:40 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-21 19:43 ` [PATCH 3/8] rust: platform: use generic device " Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-21 19:43 ` [PATCH 4/8] rust: pci: " Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 9:30 ` Greg KH
2025-06-21 19:43 ` [PATCH 5/8] rust: auxiliary: " Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-21 19:43 ` [PATCH 6/8] rust: platform: implement Driver::unbind() Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-21 19:43 ` [PATCH 7/8] rust: pci: " Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-21 19:43 ` [PATCH 8/8] samples: rust: pci: reset pci-testdev in unbind() Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 9:25 ` [PATCH 0/8] Device: generic accessors for drvdata + Driver::unbind() Greg KH
2025-07-01 10:40 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-07 7:18 ` Alexandre Courbot [this message]
2025-07-07 9:26 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-08 22:25 ` Danilo Krummrich
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