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From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	bhelgaas@google.com, ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 15/16] rust: platform: add basic platform device / driver abstractions
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 15:13:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0XXnazDo8SmDNXb@cassiopeiae> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5fLgjADyNAmdNJG+cKRcpZPLx8iKbxAvm4ZQo=c+cVNjuw=w@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 09:23:58AM +0100, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 7:07 PM Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 04:50:43PM +0100, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 11:33 PM Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > +/// Drivers must implement this trait in order to get a platform driver registered. Please refer to
> > > > +/// the `Adapter` documentation for an example.
> > > > +pub trait Driver {
> > > > +    /// The type holding information about each device id supported by the driver.
> > > > +    ///
> > > > +    /// TODO: Use associated_type_defaults once stabilized:
> > > > +    ///
> > > > +    /// type IdInfo: 'static = ();
> > > > +    type IdInfo: 'static;
> > > > +
> > > > +    /// The table of device ids supported by the driver.
> > > > +    const ID_TABLE: IdTable<Self::IdInfo>;
> > > > +
> > > > +    /// Platform driver probe.
> > > > +    ///
> > > > +    /// Called when a new platform device is added or discovered.
> > > > +    /// Implementers should attempt to initialize the device here.
> > > > +    fn probe(dev: &mut Device, id_info: Option<&Self::IdInfo>) -> Result<Pin<KBox<Self>>>;
> > >
> > > This forces the user to put their driver data in a KBox, but they
> > > might want to use an Arc instead. You don't actually *need* a KBox -
> > > any ForeignOwnable seems to fit your purposes.
> >
> > This is intentional, I do need a `KBox` here.
> >
> > The reason is that I want to enforce that the returned `Pin<KBox<Self>>` has
> > exactly the lifetime of the binding of the device and driver, i.e. from probe()
> > until remove(). This is the lifetime the structure should actually represent.
> >
> > This way we can attach things like `Registration` objects to this structure, or
> > anything else that should only exist from probe() until remove().
> >
> > If a driver needs some private driver data that needs to be reference counted,
> > it is usually attached to the class representation of the driver.
> >
> > For instance, in Nova the reference counted stuff is attached to the DRM device
> > and then I just have the DRM device (which itself is reference counted) embedded
> > in the `Driver` structure.
> >
> > In any case, drivers can always embed a separate `Arc` in their `Driver`
> > structure if they really have a need for that.
> 
> Is this needed for soundness of those registrations?

Yes, we must ensure that the class is unregistered before the driver is removed.

However, I just noticed that by letting class abstractions return the
`Registration` without being wrapped as `Devres<Registration>` the driver can
theoretically still stuff them in whatever other structure and keep the
registration alive.

So, maybe there is no way around `Devres` even for class registrations.

> 
> Also, I've often seen drivers use devm_kzalloc or similar to allocate
> exactly this object. KBox doesn't allow for that.
> 
> 
> Alice
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-26 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-22 21:31 [PATCH v3 00/16] Device / Driver PCI / Platform Rust abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] rust: init: introduce `Opaque::try_ffi_init` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 12:42   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] rust: introduce `InPlaceModule` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 12:45   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-04  0:15     ` Greg KH
2024-11-04 17:36       ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] rust: pass module name to `Module::init` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 12:55   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] rust: implement generic driver registration Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] rust: implement `IdArray`, `IdTable` and `RawDeviceId` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-25 13:42   ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] rust: add rcu abstraction Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 13:59   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] rust: add `Revocable` type Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 13:26   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-03  9:21     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-03  9:24       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-03  9:35         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-03 10:58           ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] rust: add `dev_*` print macros Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-04  0:24   ` Greg KH
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] rust: add `io::Io` base type Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-28 15:43   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-29  9:20     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 10:18       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-06 23:44         ` Daniel Almeida
2024-11-06 23:31     ` Daniel Almeida
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] rust: add devres abstraction Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-31 14:03   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-27 12:21   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-27 13:19     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-27 13:20       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] rust: pci: add basic PCI device / driver abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-27 22:42   ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-28 10:21     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-26 14:06     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 21:16   ` Christian Schrefl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] rust: pci: implement I/O mappable `pci::Bar` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] samples: rust: add Rust PCI sample driver Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-23 15:57   ` Rob Herring
2024-10-28 13:22     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] rust: of: add `of::DeviceId` abstraction Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 23:03   ` Rob Herring
2024-10-23  6:33     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-27  4:38   ` Fabien Parent
2024-10-29 13:37   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] rust: platform: add basic platform device / driver abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 23:47   ` Rob Herring
2024-10-23  6:44     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-23 14:23       ` Rob Herring
2024-10-28 10:15         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-30 12:23           ` Rob Herring
2024-11-26 12:39             ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-26 14:44               ` Rob Herring
2024-11-26 15:17                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-26 19:15                   ` Rob Herring
2024-11-26 20:01                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-24  9:11   ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-28 10:19     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29  7:20       ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-29  8:50         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29  9:19           ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-29  9:50             ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29  9:55               ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 10:08                 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-30 13:18             ` Rob Herring
2024-10-27  4:32   ` Fabien Parent
2024-10-28 13:44   ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-29 13:16   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-30 15:50   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-30 18:07     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-31  8:23       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-26 14:13         ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2024-12-04 19:25   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-12-04 19:30     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] samples: rust: add Rust platform sample driver Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-23  0:04   ` Rob Herring
2024-10-23  6:59     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-23 15:37       ` Rob Herring
2024-10-28  9:32         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-25 10:32     ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-25 16:08       ` Rob Herring
2024-10-23  5:13 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] Device / Driver PCI / Platform Rust abstractions Greg KH
2024-10-23  7:28   ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-25  5:15 ` Dirk Behme
2024-11-16 14:32 ` Janne Grunau
2024-11-16 14:50   ` Greg KH

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