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From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	bhelgaas@google.com, ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 15/16] rust: platform: add basic platform device / driver abstractions
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 21:01:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0YpAMz4RlWwc9Zq@pollux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqLohzzxDrJPFiQ6v8X=2i7pPUJdwzVLxShbcX-SCz_3Jg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 01:15:59PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:17 AM Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 08:44:19AM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > > > > The DT type and name fields are pretty much legacy, so I don't think the
> > > > > > > rust bindings need to worry about them until someone converts Sparc and
> > > > > > > PowerMac drivers to rust (i.e. never).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would guess the PCI cases might be questionable, too. Like DT, drivers
> > > > > > > may be accessing the table fields, but that's not best practice. All the
> > > > > > > match fields are stored in pci_dev, so why get them from the match
> > > > > > > table?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fair question, I'd like to forward it to Greg. IIRC, he explicitly requested to
> > > > > > make the corresponding struct pci_device_id available in probe() at Kangrejos.
> > >
> > > Making it available is not necessarily the same thing as passing it in
> > > via probe.
> >
> > IIRC, that was exactly the request.
> >
> > > I agree it may need to be available in probe(), but that
> > > can be an explicit call to get it.
> >
> > Sure, I did exactly that for the platform abstraction, because there we may
> > probe through different ID tables.
> 
> TBC, I think of_match_device() (both calling the C API and the method)
> should not be part of this series. I think we agreed on that already.
> Only if there is a need at some point later should we add it.

That matches my understanding.

> 
> > A `struct pci_driver`'s probe function has the following signature [1] though:
> >
> > `int (*probe)(struct pci_dev *dev, const struct pci_device_id *id)`
> >
> > [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.12/source/include/linux/pci.h#L950
> 
> We have a mixture of probe with and without the _device_id parameter.
> I'd question if we really want to keep that for PCI when we have a
> chance to align things with Rust. We can't really with C as it would
> be too many drivers to change. Passing the _device_id only works if
> firmware matching is never used which can change over time. But if
> aligning things is not something we want to do, then I'll shut up.

I don't disagree. Again, this one is on Greg to comment on. Personally, I'm
fine with both.

> 
> > > > > Which table gets passed in though? Is the IdInfo parameter generic and
> > > > > can be platform_device_id, of_device_id or acpi_device_id? Not sure if
> > > > > that's possible in rust or not.
> > > >
> > > > Not sure I can follow you here.
> > > >
> > > > The `IdInfo` parameter is of a type given by the driver for driver specific data
> > > > for a certain ID table entry.
> > > >
> > > > It's analogue to resolving `pci_device_id::driver_data` in C.
> > >
> > > As I said below, the PCI case is simpler than for platform devices.
> > > Platform devices have 3 possible match tables. The *_device_id type we
> > > end up with is determined at runtime (because matching is done at
> > > runtime), so IdInfo could be any of those 3 types.
> >
> > `IdInfo` is *not* any of the three *_device_id types. It's the type of the
> > drivers private data associated with an entry of any of the three ID tables.
> 
> Ah yes, indeed. So no issue with the probe method.
> 
> > It is true that a driver, which registers multiple out of those three tables is
> > currently forced to have the same private data type for all of them.
> 
> I think that's a feature actually as it enforces best practices.

Agreed.

> 
> > I don't think this is a concern, is it? If so, it's easily resolvable by just
> > adding two more associated types, e.g. `PlatformIdInfo`, `DtIdInfo` and
> > `AcpiIdInfo`.
> >
> > In this case we would indeed need accessor functions like `dt_match_data`,
> > `platform_match_data`, `acpi_match_data`, since we don't know the type at
> > compile time anymore.
> 
> Do we need to split those out in rust or can we just call
> device_get_match_data()?

We'd need to split them, because they potentially would return different types.
(Again, I don't think that's necessary though.)

For C it's just a void pointer, so we don't bother there, but in Rust we'd want
it type safe.

> 
> >
> > I don't think that's necessary though.
> 
> Even if you don't support all 3 tables now, at a minimum I think you
> need to rename things to be clear what table type is supported and
> allow for adding the other types. For example, T::ID_TABLE needs to be
> renamed to be clear it's the of_device_id table.

Sure, I already got this on my list of changes for the next version.

> 
> Rob
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-26 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-22 21:31 [PATCH v3 00/16] Device / Driver PCI / Platform Rust abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] rust: init: introduce `Opaque::try_ffi_init` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 12:42   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] rust: introduce `InPlaceModule` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 12:45   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-04  0:15     ` Greg KH
2024-11-04 17:36       ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] rust: pass module name to `Module::init` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 12:55   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] rust: implement generic driver registration Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] rust: implement `IdArray`, `IdTable` and `RawDeviceId` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-25 13:42   ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] rust: add rcu abstraction Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 13:59   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] rust: add `Revocable` type Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 13:26   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-03  9:21     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-03  9:24       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-03  9:35         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-03 10:58           ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] rust: add `dev_*` print macros Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-04  0:24   ` Greg KH
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] rust: add `io::Io` base type Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-28 15:43   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-29  9:20     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 10:18       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-06 23:44         ` Daniel Almeida
2024-11-06 23:31     ` Daniel Almeida
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] rust: add devres abstraction Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-31 14:03   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-27 12:21   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-27 13:19     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-27 13:20       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] rust: pci: add basic PCI device / driver abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-27 22:42   ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-28 10:21     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-26 14:06     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 21:16   ` Christian Schrefl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] rust: pci: implement I/O mappable `pci::Bar` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] samples: rust: add Rust PCI sample driver Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-23 15:57   ` Rob Herring
2024-10-28 13:22     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] rust: of: add `of::DeviceId` abstraction Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 23:03   ` Rob Herring
2024-10-23  6:33     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-27  4:38   ` Fabien Parent
2024-10-29 13:37   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] rust: platform: add basic platform device / driver abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 23:47   ` Rob Herring
2024-10-23  6:44     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-23 14:23       ` Rob Herring
2024-10-28 10:15         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-30 12:23           ` Rob Herring
2024-11-26 12:39             ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-26 14:44               ` Rob Herring
2024-11-26 15:17                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-26 19:15                   ` Rob Herring
2024-11-26 20:01                     ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2024-10-24  9:11   ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-28 10:19     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29  7:20       ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-29  8:50         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29  9:19           ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-29  9:50             ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29  9:55               ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 10:08                 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-30 13:18             ` Rob Herring
2024-10-27  4:32   ` Fabien Parent
2024-10-28 13:44   ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-29 13:16   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-30 15:50   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-30 18:07     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-31  8:23       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-26 14:13         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-04 19:25   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-12-04 19:30     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] samples: rust: add Rust platform sample driver Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-23  0:04   ` Rob Herring
2024-10-23  6:59     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-23 15:37       ` Rob Herring
2024-10-28  9:32         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-25 10:32     ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-25 16:08       ` Rob Herring
2024-10-23  5:13 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] Device / Driver PCI / Platform Rust abstractions Greg KH
2024-10-23  7:28   ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-25  5:15 ` Dirk Behme
2024-11-16 14:32 ` Janne Grunau
2024-11-16 14:50   ` Greg KH

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