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From: Stanislaw Gruszka <stanislaw.gruszka@linux.intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Mahesh J Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.ibm.com>,
	Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@gmail.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] PCI/AER: Block runtime suspend when handling errors
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 20:19:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZcE0wWb6/CGFTKi/@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0gsojXKwQk4CL9ZpENcFs7X9pywfwNG-_ech5_G8pHRVw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 01, 2024 at 03:10:35PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 10:36 AM Stanislaw Gruszka
> <stanislaw.gruszka@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 06:14:36PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:00:16AM +0100, Stanislaw Gruszka wrote:
> > > > PM runtime can be done simultaneously with AER error handling.
> > > > Avoid that by using pm_runtime_get_sync() just after pci_dev_get()
> > > > and pm_runtime_put() just before pci_dev_put() in AER recovery
> > > > procedures.
> > >
> > > I guess there must be a general rule here, like "PCI core must use
> > > pm_runtime_get_sync() whenever touching the device asynchronously,
> > > i.e., when it's doing something unrelated to a call from the driver"?
> >
> > Clear rules would be nice, that's for sure.
> >
> > > Probably would apply to all subsystem cores, not just PCI.
> >
> > If they have something similar like AER.
> >
> > > > I'm not sure about DPC case since I do not see get/put there. It
> > > > just call pci_do_recovery() from threaded irq dcd_handler().
> > > > I think pm_runtime* should be added to this handler as well.
> > >
> > > s/dcd_handler/dpc_handler/
> > >
> > > I'm guessing the "threaded" part really doesn't matter; just the fact
> > > that this is in response to an interrupt, not something directly
> > > called by a driver?
> >
> > Yes. I added "threaded" just to emphasis that it's safe to add sleeping
> > functions there. In context of possible solution, not related to
> > the problem itself.
> >
> > > > pm_runtime_get_sync() will increase dev->power.usage_count counter to
> > > > prevent any rpm actives. When there is suspending pending, it will wait
> > > > for it and do the rpm resume. Not sure if that problem, on my testing
> > > > I did not encounter issues with that.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I didn't catch your meaning here.
> > I tired to write two things:
> >
> > First, pm_runtime_get_sync() after exit prevents possibility of
> > runtime suspend, so we are sure device will not be powered off
> >
> > Second, if during pm_runtime_get_sync(), there is pending attempt
> > to suspend device, it will be synchronized and device will
> > be resumed.
> 
> Not exactly.  pm_runtime_get_sync() will resume the device
> synchronously no matter what.
> 
> > This can be problematic as device is in error state.
> 
> If this is a real possibility (I mean, device in a low-power state and
> in an error state at the same time), it would be better to call
> __pm_runtime_disable(dev, false) instead of pm_runtime_get_sync(), as
> that would prevent runtime PM from changing the device state.

__pm_runtime_disable(dev, false) does not work as reliable in my
test as pm_runtime_get_sync(), the

igc 0000:02:00.0: Unable to change power state from D3hot to D0, device inaccessible

message disappears, but sill have:

igc 0000:02:00.0: not ready 65535ms after bus reset; giving up
pcieport 0000:00:1c.2: AER: Root Port link has been reset (-25)
pcieport 0000:00:1c.2: AER: subordinate device reset failed
pcieport 0000:00:1c.2: AER: device recovery fail

> > But at least from software perspective we should end in device
> > being in active state and then we can perform reset of it.
> 
> I'm not sure about this.  It may be better to power-cycle the device
> in D3hot instead of attempting to put it into D0 beforehand.

Me nigher, but in pci_reset_function() and similar resetting 
procedures we always call pci_dev_save_and_disable() before
actual reset and it set device in D0, so I think it's ok to do so.

Regards
Stanislaw

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-05 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-23  9:00 [RFC] PCI/AER: Block runtime suspend when handling errors Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-30  0:14 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-02-01  9:36   ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-02-01 14:10     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-02-05 19:19       ` Stanislaw Gruszka [this message]
2024-02-05 21:00         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-02-06 15:37           ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-02-08 13:49             ` Stanislaw Gruszka

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