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From: Krishna Chaitanya Chundru <krishna.chundru@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Niklas Cassel <cassel@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 19/27] PCI: dwc: ep: Cache MSI outbound iATU mapping
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 13:44:02 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a7b94f8f-8773-43b0-b481-29828aba9abd@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aUj4M3z87MwFSUFW@ryzen>



On 12/22/2025 1:20 PM, Niklas Cassel wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 10:40:12AM +0530, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
>> On 12/8/2025 1:27 PM, Niklas Cassel wrote:
>>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 01:03:57AM +0900, Koichiro Den wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess the problem is that some EPF drivers, even if only
>>> one capability can be enabled (MSI/MSI-X), call both
>>> pci_epc_set_msi() and pci_epc_set_msix(), e.g.:
>>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/v6.18/drivers/pci/endpoint/functions/pci-epf-test.c#L969-L987
>>>
>>> To fill in the number of MSI/MSI-X irqs.
>>>
>>> While other EPF drivers only call either pci_epc_set_msi() or
>>> pci_epc_set_msix(), depending on the IRQ type that will actually
>>> be used:
>>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/v6.18/drivers/nvme/target/pci-epf.c#L2247-L2262
>>>
>>> I think both versions is okay, just because the number of IRQs
>>> is filled in for both MSI/MSI-X, AFAICT, only one of them will
>>> get enabled.
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess it might be hard for an EPC driver to know which capability
>>> that is currently enabled, as to enable a capability is only a config
>>> space write by the host side.
>> As the host is the one which enables MSI/MSIX, it should be better the
>> controller
>> driver takes this decision and the EPF driver just sends only raise_irq.
>> Because technically, host can disable MSI and enable MSIX at runtime also.
>>
>> In the controller driver,  it can check which is enabled and chose b/w
>> MSIX/MSI/Legacy.
> I'm not sure if I'm following, but if by "the controller driver", you
> mean the EPC driver, and not the host side driver, how can the EPC
> driver know how many interrupts a specific EPF driver wants to use?
I meant the dwc drivers here.
Set msi & set msix still need to called from the EPF driver only to tell 
how many
interrupts they want to configure etc.
>
>  From the kdoc to pci_epc_set_msi(), the nr_irqs parameter is defined as:
> @nr_irqs: number of MSI interrupts required by the EPF
> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/v6.19-rc2/drivers/pci/endpoint/pci-epc-core.c#L305
>
>
> Anyway, I posted Koichiro's patch here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20251210071358.2267494-2-cassel@kernel.org/
I will comment on that patch.
>
> See my comment:
>    pci-epf-test does change between MSI and MSI-X without calling
>    dw_pcie_ep_stop(), however, the msg_addr address written by the host
>    will be the same address, at least when using a Linux host using a DWC
>    based controller. If another host ends up using different msg_addr for
>    MSI and MSI-X, then I think that we will need to modify pci-epf-test to
>    call a function when changing IRQ type, such that pcie-designware-ep.c
>    can tear down the MSI/MSI-X mapping.
Maybe for arm based systems we are getting same address but for x86 
based systems
it is not guarantee that you will get same address.
> So if we want to improve things, I think we need to modify the EPF drivers
> to call a function when changing the IRQ type. The EPF driver should know
> which IRQ type that is currently in use (see e.g. nvme_epf->irq_type in
> drivers/nvme/target/pci-epf.c).
My suggestion is let EPF driver call raise_irq with the vector number 
then the dwc driver
can raise IRQ based on which IRQ host enables it.
> Additionally, I don't think that the host side should be allowed to change
> the IRQ type (using e.g. setpci) when the EPF driver is in a "running state".
In the host driver itelf they can choose to change it by using 
pci_alloc_irq_vectors 
<https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.18.2/C/ident/pci_alloc_irq_vectors>, 
Currently it is not present but in future someone can change it, as spec 
didn't say you
can't update it.
> I think things will break badly if you e.g. try to do this on an PCIe
> connected network card while the network card is in use.
I agree on this.

I just want to highlight there is possibility of this in future, if 
someone comes up with a
clean logic.

- Krishna Chaitanya.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Niklas


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-22  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-29 16:03 [RFC PATCH v2 00/27] NTB transport backed by remote DW eDMA Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/27] PCI: endpoint: pci-epf-vntb: Use array_index_nospec() on mws_size[] access Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 18:59   ` Frank Li
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/27] PCI: endpoint: pci-epf-vntb: Add mwN_offset configfs attributes Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 19:11   ` Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:23     ` Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/27] NTB: epf: Handle mwN_offset for inbound MW regions Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 19:14   ` Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:23     ` Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/27] PCI: endpoint: Add inbound mapping ops to EPC core Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 19:19   ` Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:25     ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-02 15:58       ` Frank Li
2025-12-03 14:12         ` Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/27] PCI: dwc: ep: Implement EPC inbound mapping support Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 19:32   ` Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:26     ` Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/27] PCI: endpoint: pci-epf-vntb: Use pci_epc_map_inbound() for MW mapping Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 19:34   ` Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:26     ` Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/27] NTB: Add offset parameter to MW translation APIs Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/27] PCI: endpoint: pci-epf-vntb: Propagate MW offset from configfs when present Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 19:35   ` Frank Li
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/27] NTB: ntb_transport: Support offsetted partial memory windows Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/27] NTB: core: Add .get_pci_epc() to ntb_dev_ops Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 19:39   ` Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:31     ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 21:08   ` Dave Jiang
2025-12-02  6:32     ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-02 14:49       ` Dave Jiang
2025-12-03 15:02         ` Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/27] NTB: epf: vntb: Implement .get_pci_epc() callback Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/27] damengine: dw-edma: Fix MSI data values for multi-vector IMWr interrupts Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 19:46   ` Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:32     ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-18  6:52       ` Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/27] NTB: ntb_transport: Use seq_file for QP stats debugfs Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 19:50   ` Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:33     ` Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/27] NTB: ntb_transport: Move TX memory window setup into setup_qp_mw() Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 20:02   ` Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:33     ` Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/27] NTB: ntb_transport: Dynamically determine qp count Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/27] NTB: ntb_transport: Introduce get_dma_dev() helper Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/27] NTB: epf: Reserve a subset of MSI vectors for non-NTB users Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/27] NTB: ntb_transport: Introduce ntb_transport_backend_ops Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/27] PCI: dwc: ep: Cache MSI outbound iATU mapping Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 20:41   ` Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:35     ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-02  9:32       ` Niklas Cassel
2025-12-02 15:20         ` Frank Li
2025-12-03  8:40         ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-03 10:39           ` Niklas Cassel
2025-12-03 14:36             ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-03 14:40               ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-04 17:10             ` Frank Li
2025-12-05 16:28             ` Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:32   ` Niklas Cassel
2025-12-03  8:30     ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-03 10:19       ` Niklas Cassel
2025-12-03 14:56         ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-08  7:57   ` Niklas Cassel
2025-12-09  8:15     ` Niklas Cassel
2025-12-12  3:56       ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-22  5:10     ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-12-22  7:50       ` Niklas Cassel
2025-12-22  8:14         ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru [this message]
2025-12-22 10:21           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-12-12  3:38   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-12-18  8:28     ` Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/27] NTB: ntb_transport: Introduce remote eDMA backed transport mode Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 21:41   ` Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:43     ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-02 15:42       ` Frank Li
2025-12-03  8:53         ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-03 16:14           ` Frank Li
2025-12-04 15:42             ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-04 20:16               ` Frank Li
2025-12-05  3:04                 ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-05 15:06                   ` Frank Li
2025-12-18  4:34                     ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 21:46   ` Dave Jiang
2025-12-02  6:59     ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-02 14:53       ` Dave Jiang
2025-12-03 14:19         ` Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 21/27] NTB: epf: Provide db_vector_count/db_vector_mask callbacks Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 22/27] ntb_netdev: Multi-queue support Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 23/27] NTB: epf: Add per-SoC quirk to cap MRRS for DWC eDMA (128B for R-Car) Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 20:47   ` Frank Li
2025-11-29 16:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 24/27] iommu: ipmmu-vmsa: Add PCIe ch0 to devices_allowlist Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 25/27] iommu: ipmmu-vmsa: Add support for reserved regions Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 26/27] arm64: dts: renesas: Add Spider RC/EP DTs for NTB with remote DW PCIe eDMA Koichiro Den
2025-11-29 16:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 27/27] NTB: epf: Add an additional memory window (MW2) barno mapping on Renesas R-Car Koichiro Den
2025-12-01 22:02 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/27] NTB transport backed by remote DW eDMA Frank Li
2025-12-02  6:20   ` Koichiro Den
2025-12-02 16:07     ` Frank Li
2025-12-03  8:43       ` Koichiro Den

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