From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org, ojeda@kernel.org,
alex.gaynor@gmail.com, gary@garyguo.net,
bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com, a.hindborg@kernel.org,
aliceryhl@google.com, tmgross@umich.edu,
david.m.ertman@intel.com, ira.weiny@intel.com, leon@kernel.org,
kwilczynski@kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] rust: devres: get rid of Devres' inner Arc
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:40:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aF0xp4ZKP_a7cJsc@pollux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aF0p5vIcL_4PBJCG@pollux>
On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 01:07:25PM +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 12:27:18PM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
> > On Thu Jun 26, 2025 at 12:01 PM CEST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 09:13:24PM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 11:54:01PM +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> > >> [...]
> > >> > +#[pin_data(PinnedDrop)]
> > >> > +pub struct Devres<T> {
> > >>
> > >> It makes me realize: I think we need to make `T` being `Send`? Because
> > >> the devm callback can happen on a different thread other than
> > >> `Devres::new()` and the callback may drop `T` because of revoke(), so we
> > >> are essientially sending `T`. Alternatively we can make `Devres::new()`
> > >> and its friend require `T` being `Send`.
> > >>
> > >> If it's true, we need a separate patch that "Fixes" this.
> > >
> > > Indeed, that needs a fix.
> >
> > Oh and we have no `'static` bound on `T` either... We should require
> > that as well.
>
> I don't think we actually need that, The Devres instance can't out-live a &T
> passed into it. And the &T can't out-live the &Device<Bound>, hence we're
> guaranteed that devres_callback() is never called because Devres::drop() will be
> able successfully unregister the callback given that we're still in the
> &Device<Bound> scope.
>
> The only thing that could technically out-live the &Device<Bound> would be
> &'static T, but that would obviously be fine.
>
> Do I miss anything?
Thinking a bit more about it, a similar argumentation is true for not needing
T: Send. The only way to leave the &Device<Bound> scope and hence the thread
would be to stuff the Devres into a ForeignOwnable container, no?
Analogous to Benno asking for ForeignOwnable: 'static, should we also require
ForeignOwnable: Send + Sync?
Alternatively, the safety requirements of ForeignOwnable:::from_foreign() and
ForeignOwnable::borrow() would need to cover this, which they currently they
are not.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-26 11:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-24 21:53 [PATCH v3 0/4] Improvements for Devres Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-24 21:53 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] rust: revocable: support fallible PinInit types Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-24 21:54 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] rust: devres: replace Devres::new_foreign_owned() Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-24 21:54 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] rust: devres: get rid of Devres' inner Arc Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-26 4:13 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 10:01 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-26 10:27 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-26 11:07 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-26 11:40 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-06-26 13:09 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-26 13:07 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-26 19:47 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-26 20:04 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-24 21:54 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] rust: devres: implement register_release() Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-26 10:36 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-26 11:15 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-26 13:13 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-26 14:02 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-26 14:41 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-26 15:32 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-26 15:49 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-26 23:13 ` Benno Lossin
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