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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-1939471326-1600095464=:17999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:01 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote: > > > > I am not subscribed to linux-mediatek. When I sent an email to the list, > > > > it showed up really seconds later in the lore.kernel.org of the > > > > linux-mediatek public-inbox repository. So, either it was delivered > > > > quickly as it is not moderated or my check with lore.kernel.org is wrong, > > > > e.g., mails show up in the lore.kernel.org archive, even they were not > > > > yet permitted on the actual list. > > > > > > > > > > I'm the moderator and I get requests to moderate emails. I suppose I added you > > > to the accepted list because of earlier emails you send. > > > > > > > Okay, I see. I did send some clean-up patch in the past, but I completely > > forgot that, but my mailbox did not forget. So, now it is clear to me why > > that mail showed up so quickly. > > > > Thanks for the explanation. > > AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically > moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action > setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on > infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it > that way. > > Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either. > > There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for > moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc. > > The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the > list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the > MAINTAINERS file lists. > > > Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you > > please pick this patch? > > I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for > non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :) > Well, I am happy to send any PATCH v2. I guess we, you, David, Matthias and I, now just need to determine if the list is moderated or not. I will then adjust MAINTAINERS to the final conclusion. Lukas --8323329-1939471326-1600095464=:17999--