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From: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,  kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>,
	 Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/5] PCI: Refuse function reset of an SR-IOV PF with enabled VFs
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2026 22:38:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aod22_H66eUth9av@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260818143906.1f58aecb@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 02:39:06PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 11:03:04 -0300
>Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 07:07:20AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>> > 3) resetting a PF due to ad-hoc FW error
>> >
>> > e.g. pdsc_check_pci_health() calls pci_reset_function() when FW
>> > reports broken PCI. Sounds a similar condition to AER.
>> >
>> > but as it calls pci_reset_function() this series causes a regression
>> > in case of active VFs. Is it desired?
>>
>> mlx5 does something similar. RAS flows require detecting the PF has
>> blown up and resetting it to bring it back.
>>
>> This has to work while VFs exist and bound to kernel drivers or vfio.
>>
>> In the VFIO KVM case I would expect the VM to experiance a RAS error
>> on its vPCI device and trigger a VF flr
>
>This would need to be a device level RAS flow as we're sorely lacking
>on forwarding reset notification to VF drivers or providing any
>mechanism for recovery from the vfio error eventfd.
>
>> But we have to sort all this out through the hypervisor to not crash
>> the machine or otherwise :)
>
>In general guarding the high level pci_reset_function() family on
>(pci_num_vfs() == 0) seems to have more pros than cons and the
>restriction matches the scoped intent of the interface.
>
>The low level __pci_reset_function_locked() interface remains
>untouched, and as the prefix implies, relies on the caller to do
>necessary verification and preparation.  A "reset the PF regardless of
>VFs" seems like an underscore prefix sort of operation.  We'll need to
>export the pci_dev_save_and_disable() and pci_dev_restore() functions
>to provide handlers the full suite of tools they need to replace the
>existing function and port those we find (maybe also questioning the
>author's intent on VF reset and recovery).
>
>Of course making the guard parameterized with wrappers to expand this
>family of calls is also an option,
>pci_reset_function_locked_with_vfs()...
>
>The mlx5 driver doesn't actually seem to be affected by these changes,
>doing its own link toggle or a PCI bus reset, not a
>pci_reset_function() call.
>
>On the other improvements, triggering a pci_reset_function_locked() on
>unbind after SR-IOV is disabled, when needs_reset is indicated, looks
>pretty trivial.
>
>The blocking domain operation looks like it might be simplest to
>implement in the IOMMU core.  We can set a flag for a default blocking
>domain on the IOMMU group when we take_dma_ownership of the group.  Then
>release_dma_ownership picks the blocking rather than default domain.
>
>This is then unwound in use_default_domain, called via dma_configure,
>attaching the device to the default domain in probe of the next driver.
>Therefore until probe by another driver, a device used by vfio would
>remain in a blocking domain even while unused and unbound.

The devices are expected to be attached to the default_domain even when
these are unbound and the use_default_domain assumes that, and it only
checks the ownership and doesn't switch the domain to default_domain. I
guess we should add a WARN in use_default_domain() if that is not true.
I will probably send out a patch for that separately.

I think we can move the device back to default_domain after reset after
unbind, maybe it can be done in pci_dma_cleanup() based on
driver_managed_dma?
>
>Does that seem reasonable (Cc +iommu)?  Thanks,
>
>Alex
>

Thanks,
Sami

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-20 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-12  4:53 [RFC PATCH 0/5] PCI/vfio-pci: Guard resets against active SR-IOV VFs Alex Williamson
2026-08-12  4:53 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] PCI: Refuse function reset of an SR-IOV PF with enabled VFs Alex Williamson
2026-08-12  5:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-13 23:22   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-14 14:37     ` Alex Williamson
2026-08-14 15:54       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-17 12:18       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-18  7:07         ` Tian, Kevin
2026-08-18 14:03           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-18 20:39             ` Alex Williamson
2026-08-20 22:38               ` Samiullah Khawaja [this message]
2026-08-20 23:37                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-21  2:20                   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-08-12  4:53 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] PCI: Add pci_reset_bus_cond() for a caller-gated slot or bus reset Alex Williamson
2026-08-12  5:00   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-12  4:53 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] vfio/pci: Refuse to reset an SR-IOV PF with enabled VFs Alex Williamson
2026-08-12  5:02   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-12  4:53 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] PCI: Export pci_reset_supported() Alex Williamson
2026-08-12  4:59   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-12  4:53 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] vfio/pci: Use pci_reset_supported() in place of reset_works Alex Williamson
2026-08-12  4:59   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-12 21:45 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] PCI/vfio-pci: Guard resets against active SR-IOV VFs Bjorn Helgaas
2026-08-12 22:53   ` Alex Williamson
2026-08-17 20:23   ` Tony Nguyen
2026-08-13 22:30 ` Samiullah Khawaja

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