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From: Donald Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	galshalom@nvidia.com, Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, maorg@nvidia.com, patches@lists.linux.dev,
	tdave@nvidia.com, Tony Zhu <tony.zhu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/11] iommu: Compute iommu_groups properly for PCIe switches
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 15:25:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c05104a1-7c8e-4ce9-bfa3-bcbc8c9e0ef5@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250702010407.GB1051729@nvidia.com>



On 7/1/25 9:04 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 01:29:05PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 19:28:33 -0300
>> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
>>> diff --git a/drivers/iommu/iommu.c b/drivers/iommu/iommu.c
>>> index d265de874b14b6..f4584ffacbc03d 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/iommu/iommu.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/iommu/iommu.c
>>> @@ -65,8 +65,16 @@ struct iommu_group {
>>>   	struct list_head entry;
>>>   	unsigned int owner_cnt;
>>>   	void *owner;
>>> +
>>> +	/* Used by the device_group() callbacks */
>>> +	u32 bus_data;
>>>   };
>>>   
>>> +/*
>>> + * Everything downstream of this group should share it.
>>> + */
>>> +#define BUS_DATA_PCI_UNISOLATED BIT(0)
>>
>> NON_ISOLATED for consistency w/ enum from the previous patch?
> 
> Yes
> 
>>> -	/* No shared group found, allocate new */
>>> -	return iommu_group_alloc();
>>> +	switch (pci_bus_isolated(pdev->bus)) {
>>> +	case PCIE_ISOLATED:
>>> +		/* Check multi-function groups and same-bus devfn aliases */
>>> +		group = pci_get_alias_group(pdev);
>>> +		if (group)
>>> +			return group;
>>> +
>>> +		/* No shared group found, allocate new */
>>> +		return iommu_group_alloc();
>>
>> I'm not following how we'd handle a multi-function root port w/o
>> consistent ACS isolation here.  How/where does the resulting group get
>> the UNISOLATED flag set?
> 
> Still wobbly on the root port/root bus.. So the answer is probably
> that it doesn't.
> 
> What does a multi-function root port with different ACS flags even
> mean and how should we treat it? I had in mind that the first root
> port is the TA and immediately goes the IOMMU.
> 
I'm looking for clarification what you are asking...

when you say 'multi-function root port', do you mean an RP that is a function
in a MFD in an RC ?  other?  A more explicit (complex?) example be given to
clarify?

IMO, the rule of MFD in an RC applies here, and that means the per-function ACS rules
for an MFD apply -- well, that's how I read section 6.12 (PCIe 7.0.-1.0-PUB).
This may mean checking ACS P2P Egress Control.  Table 6-11 may help wrt Egress control bits & RPs & Fcns.

If no (optional) ACS P2P Egress control, and no other ACS control, then I read/decode
the spec to mean no p2p btwn functions is possible, b/c if it is possible, by spec,
it must have an ACS cap to control it; ergo, no ACS cap, no p2p capability/routing.

- Don
> If you can explain a bit more about how you see the root ports working
> I can try to make an implementation.
> 
> AFAICT the spec sort of says 'implementation defined' for ACS on root
> ports??
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-17 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-30 22:28 [PATCH 00/11] Fix incorrect iommu_groups with PCIe switches Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 01/11] PCI: Move REQ_ACS_FLAGS into pci_regs.h as PCI_ACS_ISOLATED Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 02/11] PCI: Add pci_bus_isolation() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-01 19:28   ` Alex Williamson
2025-07-02  1:00     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-03 15:30     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-03 22:17       ` Alex Williamson
2025-07-03 23:08         ` Alex Williamson
2025-07-03 23:21           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-03 23:15         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 03/11] iommu: Compute iommu_groups properly for PCIe switches Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-01 19:29   ` Alex Williamson
2025-07-02  1:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-17 19:25       ` Donald Dutile [this message]
2025-07-17 20:27         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-18  2:31           ` Donald Dutile
2025-07-18 13:32             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 04/11] iommu: Organize iommu_group by member size Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 05/11] PCI: Add pci_reachable_set() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 06/11] iommu: Use pci_reachable_set() in pci_device_group() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 07/11] iommu: Validate that pci_for_each_dma_alias() matches the groups Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 08/11] PCI: Add the ACS Enhanced Capability definitions Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 09/11] PCI: Enable ACS Enhanced bits for enable_acs and config_acs Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 10/11] PCI: Check ACS DSP/USP redirect bits in pci_enable_pasid() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 22:28 ` [PATCH 11/11] PCI: Check ACS Extended flags for pci_bus_isolated() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-01 21:48 ` [PATCH 00/11] Fix incorrect iommu_groups with PCIe switches Alex Williamson
2025-07-02  1:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04  0:37   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-11 14:55     ` Alex Williamson
2025-07-11 16:08       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-08 20:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-11 15:40     ` Alex Williamson
2025-07-11 16:14       ` Jason Gunthorpe

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