From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: pabeni@redhat.com, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Edward Cree <ecree.xilinx@gmail.com>,
Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH 00/15] eth: fbnic: Add network driver for Meta Platforms Host Network Interface
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:39:11 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c0f643ee-2dee-428c-ac5f-2fd59b142c0e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240410103531.46437def@kernel.org>
On 4/10/2024 10:35 AM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:12:18 +0200 Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>>> For these kind of unused drivers, I think it would be legit to
>>>> disallow any internal/external api changes. Just do that for some
>>>> normal driver, then benefit from the changes in the unused driver.
>>>
>>> Unused is a bit strong, and we didn't put netdevsim in a special
>>> directory. Let's see if more such drivers appear and if there
>>> are practical uses for the separation for scripts etc?
>>
>> The practical use I see that the reviewer would spot right away is
>> someone pushes a feature implemented in this unused driver only.
>> Say it would be a clear mark for a driver of lower category.
>> For the person doing API change it would be an indication that he
>> does not have that cautious to not to break anything in this driver.
>> The driver maintainer should be the one to deal with potential issues.
>
> Hm, we currently group by vendor but the fact it's a private device
> is probably more important indeed. For example if Google submits
> a driver for a private device it may be confusing what's public
> cloud (which I think/hope GVE is) and what's fully private.
>
> So we could categorize by the characteristic rather than vendor:
>
> drivers/net/ethernet/${term}/fbnic/
>
> I'm afraid it may be hard for us to agree on an accurate term, tho.
> "Unused" sounds.. odd, we don't keep unused code, "private"
> sounds like we granted someone special right not took some away,
> maybe "exclusive"? Or "besteffort"? Or "staging" :D IDK.
Do we really need that categorization at the directory/filesystem level?
cannot we just document it clearly in the Kconfig help text and under
Documentation/networking/?
--
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-10 17:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-03 20:08 [net-next PATCH 00/15] eth: fbnic: Add network driver for Meta Platforms Host Network Interface Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 01/15] PCI: Add Meta Platforms vendor ID Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:20 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-04-03 20:42 ` [net-next PATCH 00/15] eth: fbnic: Add network driver for Meta Platforms Host Network Interface Bjorn Helgaas
2024-04-04 11:37 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-04 14:45 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-04 15:24 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-04 15:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05 3:08 ` David Ahern
2024-04-04 15:36 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-04 18:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-04 19:05 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-04 19:22 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-04 20:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-04 21:59 ` John Fastabend
2024-04-04 23:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05 0:11 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-05 2:38 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05 15:41 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 6:18 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-08 15:26 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 18:41 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-08 20:43 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 21:49 ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-08 21:52 ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-09 8:18 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-09 14:43 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 15:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 16:31 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 17:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 18:38 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 18:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 20:03 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 23:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-10 9:37 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-09 19:15 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-05 7:11 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-04-05 12:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-05 13:06 ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-04-05 14:24 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-05 15:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-05 18:38 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-05 19:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-06 16:05 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-06 16:49 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-06 17:16 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 15:04 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-08 19:50 ` Mina Almasry
2024-04-08 11:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-08 15:46 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 16:51 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-08 17:32 ` John Fastabend
2024-04-09 11:01 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-09 13:11 ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-04-09 13:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 14:08 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-09 14:27 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-09 14:41 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-10 11:45 ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-04-10 12:12 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-08 21:36 ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-09 10:56 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-09 13:05 ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-09 14:28 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-09 17:42 ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-09 18:38 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-08 18:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 16:53 ` Edward Cree
2024-04-08 11:37 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-04 23:50 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 11:05 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-08 10:54 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-05 14:01 ` Przemek Kitszel
2024-04-06 16:53 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 20:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-09 21:06 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-04-10 7:26 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-10 21:30 ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-10 22:19 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-11 0:31 ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-09 23:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-10 15:56 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10 20:01 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-10 21:07 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10 22:37 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-11 16:00 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-11 17:32 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-11 23:12 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-11 6:39 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-11 16:46 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10 7:42 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-10 12:50 ` Przemek Kitszel
2024-04-10 13:46 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 15:12 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-10 17:35 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 17:39 ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2024-04-10 17:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 18:00 ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-10 20:03 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 18:01 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10 18:29 ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-10 19:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 22:03 ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-11 6:31 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-11 16:22 ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-11 6:34 ` Jiri Pirko
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