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From: srinivas pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>
To: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Krishna Chaitanya Chundru" <quic_krichai@quicinc.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Lezcano" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"Zhang Rui" <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, "Bjorn Helgaas" <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Lukas Wunner" <lukas@wunner.de>,
	"Alexandru Gagniuc" <mr.nuke.me@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexdeucher@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Add PCIe Bandwidth Controller
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 09:14:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f35db90cd67adf4b0f48cd6f2a6ad8fbd0c1a679.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <25bf206e-864b-644-9b4-a0f461b4285@linux.intel.com>

On Mon, 2023-09-11 at 18:47 +0300, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> + thermal people.
> 
> 

...

> Hi,
> 
> Okay, thanks for the clarification. So the point is to plan for
> adding 
> support for Link Width later and currently only support throttling
> Link 
> Speed. In any case, the Link Width control seems to be controlled
> using 
> a different approach (Link Width change does not require Link
> Retraining).
> 
> I don't know either how such 2 dimensioned throttling (Link Speed and
> Link Width) is supposed to be realized using the thermal/cooling
> device 
> interface which only provides a single integer as the current state.
> That 
> is, whether to provide a single cooling device (with a single integer
> exposed to userspace) or separate cooling device for each dimension?
> 
> Perhaps thermal people could provide some insight on this? Is there
> some 
> precedent I could take look at?
Yes. The processor cooling device does similar. 1-3 are reserved for P-
state and and 4-7 for T-states.

But I don't suggest using such method. This causes confusion and
difficult to change. For example if we increase range of P-state
control, then there is no way to know what is the start point of T-
states.

It is best to create to separate cooling devices for BW and link width.

Also there is a requirement that anything you add to thermal sysfs, it
should have some purpose for thermal control. I hope Link width control
is targeted to similar use case BW control.

Thanks,
Srinivas


> 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-11 21:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-17 12:16 [PATCH 00/10] Add PCIe Bandwidth Controller Ilpo Järvinen
2023-08-17 12:16 ` [PATCH 01/10] PCI: Protect Link Control 2 Register with RMW locking Ilpo Järvinen
2023-08-17 12:17 ` [PATCH 02/10] drm/radeon: Use RMW accessors for changing LNKCTL2 Ilpo Järvinen
2023-08-17 12:17 ` [PATCH 03/10] drm/amdgpu: " Ilpo Järvinen
2023-08-17 12:17 ` [PATCH 04/10] drm/IB/hfi1: " Ilpo Järvinen
2023-08-17 12:17 ` [PATCH 05/10] PCI: Store all PCIe Supported Link Speeds Ilpo Järvinen
2023-08-17 12:17 ` [PATCH 06/10] PCI: Cache PCIe device's Supported Speed Vector Ilpo Järvinen
2023-08-17 12:17 ` [PATCH 07/10] PCI/LINK: Re-add BW notification portdrv as PCIe BW controller Ilpo Järvinen
2023-08-17 12:17 ` [PATCH 08/10] PCI/bwctrl: Add "controller" part into PCIe bwctrl Ilpo Järvinen
2023-08-17 12:17 ` [PATCH 09/10] thermal: Add PCIe cooling driver Ilpo Järvinen
2023-08-23 19:47   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-08-17 12:17 ` [PATCH 10/10] selftests/pcie_bwctrl: Create selftests Ilpo Järvinen
2023-09-04  6:26 ` [PATCH 00/10] Add PCIe Bandwidth Controller Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2023-09-04 11:16   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-09-11 13:21     ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2023-09-11 15:47       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-09-11 16:14         ` srinivas pandruvada [this message]
2023-09-12 12:52           ` Ilpo Järvinen
2023-09-12 17:45             ` srinivas pandruvada
2023-09-12 18:08               ` srinivas pandruvada

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