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From: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>
To: Sui Jingfeng <sui.jingfeng@linux.dev>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Sui Jingfeng <suijingfeng@loongson.cn>,
	nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC, drm-misc-next v4 0/9] PCI/VGA: Allowing the user to select the primary video adapter at boot time
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 08:47:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ffa04976-c2c4-9a63-2b43-7cb7ea3d92ea@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e3d2d996-a2c1-c4b8-7722-f67aefac8193@linux.dev>

Am 05.09.23 um 16:28 schrieb Sui Jingfeng:
> Hi,
>
> On 2023/9/5 21:28, Christian König wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 2) Typically, those non-86 machines don't have a good UEFI firmware
>>>>     support, which doesn't support select primary GPU as firmware 
>>>> stage.
>>>>     Even on x86, there are old UEFI firmwares which already made 
>>>> undesired
>>>>     decision for you.
>>>>
>>>> 3) This series is attempt to solve the remain problems at the 
>>>> driver level,
>>>>     while another series[1] of me is target to solve the majority 
>>>> of the
>>>>     problems at device level.
>>>>
>>>> Tested (limited) on x86 with four video card mounted, Intel UHD 
>>>> Graphics
>>>> 630 is the default boot VGA, successfully override by ast2400 with
>>>> ast.modeset=10 append at the kernel cmd line.
>>> The value 10 is incredibly arbitrary, and multiplied as a magic number
>>> all over the place.
>>
>> +1 
>
>
> This is the exact reason why I made this series as RFC, because this 
> is a open-ended problem.
> The choices of 3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9 are as arbitrary as the number of 
> '10'. '1' and '2' is
> definitely not suitable, because the seat has already been taken.

Well you are completely missing the point. *DON'T* abuse the modeset 
module parameters for this!

If you use 10 or any other value doesn't matter.

Regards,
Christian.

>
> Take the drm/nouveau as an example:
>
>
> ```
>
> MODULE_PARM_DESC(modeset, "enable driver (default: auto, "
>                   "0 = disabled, 1 = enabled, 2 = headless)");
> int nouveau_modeset = -1;
> module_param_named(modeset, nouveau_modeset, int, 0400);
>
> ```
>
>
> '1' is for enable the drm driver, some driver even override the 
> 'nomodeset' parameter.
>
> '2' is not suitable, because nouveau use it as headless GPU 
> (render-only or compute class GPU?)
>
> '3' is also not likely the best, the concerns is that
> what if a specific drm driver want to expand the usage in the future?
>
>
> The reason I pick up the digit '10' is that
>
>
> 1) The modeset parameter is unlikely to get expanded up to 10 usages.
>
> Other drm drivers only use the '-1', '0' and 1, choose '2' will 
> conflict with drm/nouveau.
> By pick the digit '10', it leave some space(room) to various device 
> driver authors.
> It also helps to keep the usage consistent across various drivers.
>
>
> 2) An int taken up 4 byte, I don't want to waste even a single byte,
>
> While in the process of defencing my patch, I have to say
> draft another kernel command line would cause the wasting of precious 
> RAM storage.
>
> An int can have 2^31 usage, why we can't improve the utilization rate?
>
> 3) Please consider the fact that the modeset is the most common and 
> attractive parameter
>
> No name is better than the 'modeset', as other name is not easy to 
> remember.
>
> Again, this is for Linux user, thus it is not arbitrary.
> Despite simple and trivial, I think about it more than one week.
>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-06  6:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-04 19:57 [RFC,drm-misc-next v4 0/9] PCI/VGA: Allowing the user to select the primary video adapter at boot time Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-04 19:57 ` [RFC,drm-misc-next v4 1/9] " Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-04 19:57 ` [RFC,drm-misc-next v4 2/9] drm/nouveau: Implement .be_primary() callback Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-04 19:57 ` [RFC,drm-misc-next v4 3/9] drm/radeon: " Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-05  5:50   ` Christian König
2023-09-05 17:24     ` suijingfeng
2023-09-06 16:00       ` Alex Deucher
2023-09-07  1:40         ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-04 19:57 ` [RFC,drm-misc-next v4 4/9] drm/amdgpu: " Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-04 19:57 ` [RFC,drm-misc-next v4 5/9] drm/i915: " Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-04 19:57 ` [RFC,drm-misc-next v4 6/9] drm/loongson: " Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-04 19:57 ` [RFC,drm-misc-next v4 7/9] drm/ast: Register as a VGA client by calling vga_client_register() Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-04 19:57 ` [RFC,drm-misc-next v4 8/9] drm/hibmc: " Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-04 19:57 ` [RFC,drm-misc-next v4 9/9] drm/gma500: " Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-05 10:38 ` [RFC, drm-misc-next v4 0/9] PCI/VGA: Allowing the user to select the primary video adapter at boot time Jani Nikula
2023-09-05 13:28   ` Christian König
2023-09-05 14:28     ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-06  6:47       ` Christian König [this message]
2023-09-05 10:45 ` [Nouveau] " Thomas Zimmermann
2023-09-05 13:30   ` suijingfeng
2023-09-05 15:05     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-09-06  2:14       ` suijingfeng
2023-09-06  7:00         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-09-06  2:34       ` suijingfeng
2023-09-06  7:18         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-09-06  3:08       ` suijingfeng
2023-09-06  7:46         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-09-06  4:14       ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-06  6:45     ` Christian König
2023-09-06  9:08       ` suijingfeng
2023-09-06  9:40         ` Christian König
2023-09-07  2:30           ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-07  9:08             ` Christian König
2023-09-07 12:32               ` suijingfeng
2023-09-07 12:43                 ` Christian König
2023-09-07 15:26                   ` suijingfeng
2023-09-07 15:32                     ` Christian König
2023-09-07 16:33               ` suijingfeng
2023-09-08  6:59                 ` Christian König
2023-09-06 10:31       ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-06 10:50         ` Christian König
2023-09-05 10:49 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-09-05 15:59   ` suijingfeng
2023-09-06  8:05     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-09-06  9:48       ` suijingfeng
2023-09-06 11:06         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-09-07  9:43         ` Jani Nikula
2023-09-05 14:52 ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-05 16:21   ` suijingfeng
2023-09-05 16:39     ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-06  3:51   ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-09-06 19:29     ` Alex Williamson

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