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From: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	aik@amd.com, lukas@wunner.de, Samuel Ortiz <sameo@rivosinc.com>,
	Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 04/38] tsm: Support DMA Allocation from private memory
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2025 12:28:33 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq5aldnz8teu.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250802134154.GI26511@ziepe.ca>

Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> writes:

> On Sat, Aug 02, 2025 at 02:14:20PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
>> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> writes:
>> 
>> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 01:53:10PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
>> >> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 07:21:41PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm) wrote:
>> >> >> @@ -48,3 +49,12 @@ int set_memory_decrypted(unsigned long addr, int numpages)
>> >> >>  	return crypt_ops->decrypt(addr, numpages);
>> >> >>  }
>> >> >>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(set_memory_decrypted);
>> >> >> +
>> >> >> +bool force_dma_unencrypted(struct device *dev)
>> >> >> +{
>> >> >> +	if (dev->tdi_enabled)
>> >> >> +		return false;
>> >> >
>> >> > Is this OK? I see code like this:
>> >> >
>> >> > static inline dma_addr_t phys_to_dma_direct(struct device *dev,
>> >> > 		phys_addr_t phys)
>> >> > {
>> >> > 	if (force_dma_unencrypted(dev))
>> >> > 		return phys_to_dma_unencrypted(dev, phys);
>> >> > 	return phys_to_dma(dev, phys);
>> >> >
>> >> > What are the ARM rules for generating dma addreses?
>> >> >
>> >> > 1) Device is T=0, memory is unencrypted, call dma_addr_unencrypted()
>> >> >    and do "top bit IBA set"
>> >> >
>> >> > 2) Device is T=1, memory is encrypted, use the phys_to_dma() normally
>> >> >
>> >> > 3) Device it T=1, memory is uncrypted, use the phys_to_dma()
>> >> >    normally??? Seems odd, I would have guessed the DMA address sould
>> >> >    be the same as case #1?
>> >> >
>> >> > Can you document this in a comment?
>> >> >
>> >> 
>> >> If a device is operating in secure mode (T=1), it is currently assumed
>> >> that only access to private (encrypted) memory is supported.
>> >
>> > No, this is no how the PCI specs were written as far as I
>> > understand. The XT bit thing is supposed to add more fine grained
>> > device side control over what memory the DMA can target. T alone does
>> > not do that.
>> >
>> >> It is unclear whether devices would need to perform DMA to shared
>> >> (unencrypted) memory while operating in this mode, as TLPs with T=1
>> >> are generally expected to target private memory.
>> >
>> > PCI SIG supports it, kernel should support it.
>> >
>> 
>> Would we also need a separate DMA allocation API for allocating
>> addresses intended to be shared with the non-secure hypervisor?
>> 
>> Are there any existing drivers in the kernel that already require such
>> shared allocations, which I could use as a reference?
>
> The most likely case in the near term is PCI P2P to shared MMIO.
>
> I don't know any way to allocate shared memory in a driver??
>
> At the bare minimum this patch should be documenting the correct
> architecture and outlining any gaps in the current implementation.
>
> I also don't really understand what the above code is even
> doing.. Isn't the design on ARM that the IPA always encodes the
> shared/private in the top bit?
>
> How do we get a shared page that does not already have a phys_addr_t
> in the shared IPA? Shouldn't the kernel have switched to the shared
> IPA alias when it returned the swiotlb buffer? eg why do we need to do:
>
> #define dma_addr_unencrypted(x)		((x) | PROT_NS_SHARED)
>

swiotlb virt addr is updated in the direct map page table such that we
have the correct attribute set. For ex: swiotlb_update_mem_attributes
uses set_memory_decrypted() to mark the memory as shared.

	set_memory_decrypted((unsigned long)mem->vaddr, bytes >> PAGE_SHIFT);

However, when mapping swiotlb regions to obtain a `dma_addr_t`, we still
need to explicitly convert the physical address:

swiotlb_map()
	swiotlb_addr = swiotlb_tbl_map_single(dev, paddr, size, 0, dir, attrs);
        ...

	/* Ensure that the address returned is DMA'ble */
	dma_addr = phys_to_dma_unencrypted(dev, swiotlb_addr);

Note that we don’t update the phys_addr_t to set the top
bit. For reference:

	tlb_addr = slot_addr(pool->start, index) + offset;

-aneesh

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-04  6:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-28 13:51 [RFC PATCH v1 00/38] ARM CCA Device Assignment support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/38] tsm: Add tsm_bind/unbind helpers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/38] tsm: Move tsm core outside the host directory Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/38] tsm: Move dsm_dev from pci_tdi to pci_tsm Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-08-04 21:52   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-08-05  9:24     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/38] tsm: Support DMA Allocation from private memory Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 14:33   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-29  8:23     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-29 14:33       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30 10:09         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-07-31 12:17           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-31 13:48             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-07-31 16:44               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-01  9:30                 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-08-01 14:53                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-02  8:44         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-02 13:41           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-04  6:58             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2025-08-05 15:54               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 10:22     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-05 16:08       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-04 21:54   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/38] tsm: Don't overload connect Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-08-04 22:00   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/38] iommufd: Add and option to request for bar mapping with IORESOURCE_EXCLUSIVE Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 14:08   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-29  8:28     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-29 14:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30  6:55         ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-31 12:22           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05  2:26             ` Xu Yilun
2025-08-05 16:10               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30  6:43   ` Xu Yilun
2025-08-06 21:18   ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/38] iommufd/viommu: Add support to associate viommu with kvm instance Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 14:10   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-29  8:30     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-29 16:26   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-29 23:16     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/38] iommufd/tsm: Add tsm_op iommufd ioctls Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-29 16:34   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-02  9:03     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 22:25   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/38] iommufd/vdevice: Add TSM Guest request uAPI Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-08-04 22:03   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/38] iommufd/vdevice: Add TSM map ioctl Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 14:17   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-29  8:37     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-29 14:31       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-04  2:32     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-04  8:28       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-05  1:29         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-08-05 15:48       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/38] KVM: arm64: CCA: register host tsm platform device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-29 17:10   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-29 23:19     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30  8:42       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-30 10:38         ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-30 12:23           ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-30 13:07             ` Greg KH
2025-07-31 12:11           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-31 13:22             ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-31 16:46               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-01  8:31                 ` Greg KH
2025-08-02  0:54             ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/38] coco: host: arm64: CCA host platform device driver Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-29 17:22   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-29 23:22     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30 10:28       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-31 12:26         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30  8:58     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-30 10:25       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/38] coco: host: arm64: Create a PDEV with rmm Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 12:39   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-02 10:54     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-31 11:47   ` Arto Merilainen
2025-08-02 10:57     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 22:28   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/38] coco: host: arm64: Device communication support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 13:52   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-31 12:28     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-04  4:17     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 22:29   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/38] coco: host: arm64: Stop and destroy the physical device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 13:57   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04  4:22     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/38] X.509: Make certificate parser public Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/38] X.509: Parse Subject Alternative Name in certificates Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/38] X.509: Move certificate length retrieval into new helper Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-08-04 22:27   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 19/38] coco: host: arm64: set_pubkey support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:08   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04  4:29     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 22:26   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 20/38] coco: host: arm64: Add support for creating a virtual device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:12   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 21/38] coco: host: arm64: Add support for virtual device communication Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:13   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04  4:45     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-28 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH v1 22/38] coco: host: arm64: Stop and destroy virtual device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:15   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 23/38] coco: guest: arm64: Update arm CCA guest driver Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:22   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-31 12:29     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-31 13:54       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 24/38] arm64: CCA: Register guest tsm callback Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:26   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04  4:50     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 25/38] cca: guest: arm64: Realm device lock support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:32   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 26/38] KVM: arm64: Add exit handler related to device assignment Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:35   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 27/38] coco: host: arm64: add RSI_RDEV_GET_INSTANCE_ID related exit handler Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 28/38] coco: host: arm64: Add support for device communication " Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 29/38] coco: guest: arm64: Add support for collecting interface reports Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 30/38] coco: host: arm64: Add support for realm host interface (RHI) Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:43   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 31/38] coco: guest: arm64: Add support for fetching interface report and certificate chain from host Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:46   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 32/38] coco: guest: arm64: Add support for guest initiated TDI bind/unbind Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 14:51   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04 22:28   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 33/38] KVM: arm64: CCA: handle dev mem map/unmap Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 34/38] coco: guest: arm64: Validate mmio range found in the interface report Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-30 15:06   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-31 11:39   ` Arto Merilainen
2025-07-31 16:53     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-04  6:37     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04  8:27       ` Arto Merilainen
2025-08-04 22:31   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 35/38] coco: guest: arm64: Add Realm device start and stop support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-31 10:40   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04 22:27   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 36/38] KVM: arm64: CCA: enable DA in realm create parameters Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-08-04 22:31   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 37/38] coco: guest: arm64: Add support for fetching device measurements Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-31 10:16   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04 22:27   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 38/38] coco: guest: arm64: Add support for fetching device info Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-07-31 10:36   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04  6:48     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-04 10:23       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-08 23:37   ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-30 16:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/38] ARM CCA Device Assignment support Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-01  2:07 ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-01 15:51   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-01 21:19     ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-02 14:17       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-02 23:50         ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-03 22:26           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05  5:07       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-08-05 17:27         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 18:27           ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-05 18:42             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 19:06               ` dan.j.williams
2025-08-05 19:38                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05  4:50   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V

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