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From: Brice Goglin <brice.goglin@gmail.com>
To: srinivas pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, daniel.sneddon@linux.intel.com,
	tony.luck@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>,
	"Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Add CPU-type to topology
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 23:25:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0021f5f2-67c5-4b20-939d-48c9c1c60cdb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bc75ff55161671e4470849ed51baa547f619889d.camel@linux.intel.com>

Le 19/06/2024 à 12:34, srinivas pandruvada a écrit :
> On Tue, 2024-06-18 at 18:53 -0700, Pawan Gupta wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 02:49:10PM +0200, Brice Goglin wrote:
>>> Le 17/06/2024 à 11:11, Pawan Gupta a écrit :
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This series adds support for CPU-type (CPUID.1A.EAX[31-24] on
>>>> Intel) to
>>>> differentiate between hybrid variants P+E, P-only, E-only that
>>>> share the
>>>> same Family/Model/Stepping. One of the use case for CPU-type is
>>>> the
>>>> affected CPU table for CPU vulnerabilities, which can now use the
>>>> CPU-type
>>>> to filter the unaffected variants.
>>>>
>>>> * Patch 1 adds cpu-type to CPU topology structure and introduces
>>>>     topology_cpu_type() to get the CPU-type.
>>>>
>>>> * Patch 2-4 replaces usages of get_this_hybrid_cpu_type() with
>>>>     topology_cpu_type().
>>>>
>>>> * Patch 5-7 Updates CPU-matching infrastructure to use CPU-type.
>>>>
>>>> * Patch 8 cleans up the affected CPU list.
>>>>
>>>> * Patch 9 uses the CPU-type to exclude P-only parts from the RFDS
>>>> affected
>>>>     list.
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Is there still a plan to expose this info in sysfs?
>> Sure, if it helps userspace.
>>
>>> Userspace currently uses frequencies to guess which cores are E or
>>> P.
>>> Intel sent some patches several years ago [1], but they got
>>> abandoned
>>> nowhere as far as I know. There was also some discussion about
>>> using a
>>> "capacity" field like ARM does, but IIRC Intel didn't like the idea
>>> in
>>> the end.
>> There can be many ways to expose this information in sysfs. Like this
>> ...
>>
>>> [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/10/2/1208
>> ... exposes /sys/devices/system/cpu/types which, in hybrid parts,
>> creates a
>> subdirectory for each type of CPU. Each subdirectory contains a CPU
>> list
>> and a CPU map that user space can query.
>>
>> The other way is to expose the CPU-type in a file:
>>
>>          /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/type
>>
>> that could return the CPU-type of the CPU N. Is there a preference?
> But you still have to look at frequency or caches as there are Low
> power E-cores which will have same type but different capabilities.


Good point. From this patch series, I understand that the current kernel 
side doesn't care about these different E-cores. However it might be 
good to expose them as different cpu-types (or better name) to userspace ?

Something like type 0 = P-core, 1 = normal E-core, 2 = low power E-core ?

Brice



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-19 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-17  9:11 [PATCH 0/9] Add CPU-type to topology Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17  9:11 ` [PATCH PATCH 1/9] x86/cpu/topology: Add x86_cpu_type to struct cpuinfo_topology Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17  9:35   ` Andrew Cooper
2024-06-17 17:51     ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17 13:24   ` kernel test robot
2024-06-17 13:45   ` kernel test robot
2024-06-18 21:28   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-19  3:31     ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-20 15:51       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-21  6:36         ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-18 21:33   ` Mario Limonciello
2024-06-18 22:03     ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-17  9:11 ` [PATCH PATCH 2/9] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Use topology_cpu_type() to get cpu-type Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17  9:27   ` srinivas pandruvada
2024-06-17 18:36     ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17 14:01   ` kernel test robot
2024-06-17  9:11 ` [PATCH PATCH 3/9] perf/x86/intel: " Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17 14:50   ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-17 18:09     ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17 18:17       ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-17 18:25         ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17  9:11 ` [PATCH PATCH 4/9] x86/cpu: Remove get_this_hybrid_cpu_type() Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17  9:11 ` [PATCH PATCH 5/9] x86/cpu: Name CPU matching macro more generically (and shorten) Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17  9:11 ` [PATCH PATCH 6/9] x86/cpu: Add cpu_type to struct x86_cpu_id Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17  9:12 ` [PATCH PATCH 7/9] x86/cpu: Update x86_match_cpu() to also use cpu-type Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17  9:12 ` [PATCH PATCH 8/9] x86/bugs: Declutter vulnerable CPU list Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17  9:38   ` Andrew Cooper
2024-06-17 18:13     ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17 14:13   ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-17 18:14     ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17 23:52     ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-18  0:08       ` Luck, Tony
2024-06-18  3:19         ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17  9:12 ` [PATCH PATCH 9/9] x86/rfds: Exclude P-only parts from the RFDS affected list Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17  9:43   ` Andrew Cooper
2024-06-17 14:34     ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-17 18:19       ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-17 14:33   ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-17 18:24     ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-18 12:49 ` [PATCH 0/9] Add CPU-type to topology Brice Goglin
2024-06-19  1:53   ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-19 10:34     ` srinivas pandruvada
2024-06-19 21:25       ` Brice Goglin [this message]
2024-06-20 15:06         ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-20 15:22           ` Brice Goglin
2024-06-21  6:23             ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-27 12:55             ` Ricardo Neri
2024-06-27 12:51           ` Ricardo Neri
2024-06-27 13:22             ` Pawan Gupta
2024-06-27 15:26               ` Ricardo Neri
2024-06-27 16:54               ` Liang, Kan
2024-06-29 11:37               ` Brice Goglin
2024-06-27 12:53       ` Ricardo Neri
2024-06-19 21:22     ` Brice Goglin
2024-06-27 15:22       ` Ricardo Neri
2024-06-27 15:22   ` Ricardo Neri

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