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From: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@gmail.com>, James Clark <james.clark@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, will@kernel.org,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/3] Documentation: arm64: Document the PMU event counting threshold feature
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:33:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0058ca82-e55b-4490-90d0-871afce787c7@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM9d7ciDq-te1DQPrMrZQC9er0pSMY24nvC-atxdRu1C6uD08A@mail.gmail.com>

On 20/11/2023 21:31, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 3:26 AM James Clark <james.clark@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Add documentation for the new Perf event open parameters and
>> the threshold_max capability file.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: James Clark <james.clark@arm.com>
>> ---
>>   Documentation/arch/arm64/perf.rst | 56 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   1 file changed, 56 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/arch/arm64/perf.rst b/Documentation/arch/arm64/perf.rst
>> index 1f87b57c2332..36b8111a710d 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/arch/arm64/perf.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/arch/arm64/perf.rst
>> @@ -164,3 +164,59 @@ and should be used to mask the upper bits as needed.
>>      https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/tools/perf/arch/arm64/tests/user-events.c
>>   .. _tools/lib/perf/tests/test-evsel.c:
>>      https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/tools/lib/perf/tests/test-evsel.c
>> +
>> +Event Counting Threshold
>> +==========================================
>> +
>> +Overview
>> +--------
>> +
>> +FEAT_PMUv3_TH (Armv8.8) permits a PMU counter to increment only on
>> +events whose count meets a specified threshold condition. For example if
>> +threshold_compare is set to 2 ('Greater than or equal'), and the
>> +threshold is set to 2, then the PMU counter will now only increment by
>> +when an event would have previously incremented the PMU counter by 2 or
>> +more on a single processor cycle.
>> +
>> +To increment by 1 after passing the threshold condition instead of the
>> +number of events on that cycle, add the 'threshold_count' option to the
>> +commandline.
>> +
>> +How-to
>> +------
>> +
>> +The threshold, threshold_compare and threshold_count values can be
>> +provided per event:
>> +
>> +.. code-block:: sh
>> +
>> +  perf stat -e stall_slot/threshold=2,threshold_compare=2/ \
>> +            -e dtlb_walk/threshold=10,threshold_compare=3,threshold_count/
> 
> Can you please explain this a bit more?
> 
> I guess the first event counts stall_slot PMU if the event if it's
> greater than or equal to 2.  And as threshold_count is not set,
> it'd count the stall_slot as is.  E.g. it counts 3 when it sees 3.
> 
> OTOH, dtlb_walk will count 1 if it sees an event less than 10.
> Is my understanding correct?

That is correct. The behavior is described in the paragraph above.
But I agree that it would be really helpful if we explained with the
example above.

> 
>> +
>> +And the following comparison values are supported:
>> +
>> +.. code-block::
>> +
>> +  0: Not-equal
>> +  1: Equals
>> +  2: Greater-than-or-equal
>> +  3: Less-than
> 
> So the above values are for threashold_compare, right?
> It'd be nice if it's more explicit.
> 
> Similarly, it'd be helpful to have a description for the
> threshold and threshold_count fields.

Agreed.

Suzuki



> 
> Thanks,
> Namhyung
> 
>> +
>> +The maximum supported threshold value can be read from the caps of each
>> +PMU, for example:
>> +
>> +.. code-block:: sh
>> +
>> +  cat /sys/bus/event_source/devices/armv8_pmuv3/caps/threshold_max
>> +
>> +  0x000000ff
>> +
>> +If a value higher than this is given, then it will be silently clamped
>> +to the maximum. The highest possible maximum is 4095, as the config
>> +field for threshold is limited to 12 bits, and the Perf tool will refuse
>> +to parse higher values.
>> +
>> +If the PMU doesn't support FEAT_PMUv3_TH, then threshold_max will read
>> +0, and both threshold and threshold_compare will be silently ignored.
>> +threshold_max will also read as 0 on aarch32 guests, even if the host
>> +is running on hardware with the feature.
>> --
>> 2.34.1
>>
>>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-21 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-13 11:25 [PATCH v5 0/3] arm64: perf: Add support for event counting threshold James Clark
2023-11-13 11:25 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] arm64: perf: Include threshold control fields in PMEVTYPER mask James Clark
2023-11-21 10:15   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-11-22  8:44   ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-11-13 11:25 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] arm64: perf: Add support for event counting threshold James Clark
2023-11-21 10:20   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-11-23  3:42   ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-11-23 17:53     ` James Clark
2023-11-13 11:25 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] Documentation: arm64: Document the PMU event counting threshold feature James Clark
2023-11-20 21:31   ` Namhyung Kim
2023-11-21 10:33     ` Suzuki K Poulose [this message]
2023-11-23 15:33       ` James Clark
2023-11-23  5:50     ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-11-23 15:45       ` James Clark
2023-11-24  9:52         ` James Clark

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