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From: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	acme@kernel.org, will@kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	James Clark <james.clark@arm.com>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 2/7] arm64/perf: Update struct arm_pmu for BRBE
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 11:36:07 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <06666fe7-d17c-24c9-98b7-65f5642dfb2b@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3fFGQN55+LM5s5u@FVFF77S0Q05N.cambridge.arm.com>



On 11/18/22 23:17, Mark Rutland wrote:
> 
> Hi Anshuman,
> 
> Apologies for the delayi n reviewing this.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 12:09:07PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
>> On 11/9/22 17:00, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
>>> On 07/11/2022 06:25, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
>>>> Although BRBE is an armv8 speciifc HW feature, abstracting out its various
>>>> function callbacks at the struct arm_pmu level is preferred, as it cleaner
>>>> , easier to follow and maintain.
>>>>
>>>> Besides some helpers i.e brbe_supported(), brbe_probe() and brbe_reset()
>>>> might not fit seamlessly, when tried to be embedded via existing arm_pmu
>>>> helpers in the armv8 implementation.
>>>>
>>>> Updates the struct arm_pmu to include all required helpers that will drive
>>>> BRBE functionality for a given PMU implementation. These are the following.
>>>>
>>>> - brbe_filter    : Convert perf event filters into BRBE HW filters
>>>> - brbe_probe    : Probe BRBE HW and capture its attributes
>>>> - brbe_enable    : Enable BRBE HW with a given config
>>>> - brbe_disable    : Disable BRBE HW
>>>> - brbe_read    : Read BRBE buffer for captured branch records
>>>> - brbe_reset    : Reset BRBE buffer
>>>> - brbe_supported: Whether BRBE is supported or not
>>>>
>>>> A BRBE driver implementation needs to provide these functionalities.
>>>
>>> Could these not be hidden from the generic arm_pmu and kept in the
>>> arm64 pmu backend  ? It looks like they are quite easy to simply
>>> move these to the corresponding hooks in arm64 pmu.
>>
>> We have had this discussion multiple times in the past [1], but I still
>> believe, keeping BRBE implementation hooks at the PMU level rather than
>> embedding them with other PMU events handling, is a much better logical
>> abstraction.
>>
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/c3804290-bdb1-d1eb-3526-9b0ce4c8e8b1@arm.com/
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> One thing to answer in the commit msg is why we need the hooks here.  
>>> Have we concluded that adding BRBE hooks to struct arm_pmu for what is 
>>> an armv8 specific feature is the right approach? I don't recall 
>>> reaching that conclusion.
>>
>> Although it might be possible to have this implementation embedded in
>> the existing armv8 PMU implementation, I still believe that the BRBE
>> functionalities abstracted out at the arm_pmu level with a separate
>> config option is cleaner, easier to follow and to maintain as well.
>>
>> Besides some helpers i.e brbe_supported(), brbe_probe() and brbe_reset()
>> might not fit seamlessly, when tried to be embedded via existing arm_pmu
>> helpers in the armv8 implementation.
>>
>> Nonetheless if arm_pmu based additional BRBE helpers is absolutely a no
>> go for folks here in general, will explore arm64 based implementation.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I am still waiting for maintainer's take on this issue. I will be happy to
>> rework this series to move all these implementation inside arm64 callbacks
>> instead, if that is required or preferred by the maintainers. But according
>> to me, this current abstraction layout is much better.
> 
> To be honest, I'm not sure what's best right now; but at the moment it's not
> clear to me why this couldn't fit within the existing hooks.
> 
> Above you say brbe_supported() / brbe_probe() / brbe_reset() didn't fit
> seamlessly; can you give an example of problem? I think I'm missing something
> obvious.

I tried to move them inside armv8 implementation callbacks.

arm64_pmu_brbe_supported() can be moved inside __armv8_pmuv3_map_event(), so that
event viability can be validated during armpmu_event_init(). arm64_pmu_brbe_probe()
can be moved inside __armv8pmu_probe_pmu() as you have suggested earlier on another
thread. arm64_pmu_brbe_reset() can also be moved inside armv8pmu_enable_event(),
and also armv8pmu_reset().

The only problem being armpmu_sched_task() where earlier we had BRBE reset, but I
guess it can be replaced with entire PMU reset which does the BRBE reset as well ?

static void armpmu_sched_task(struct perf_event_context *ctx, bool sched_in)
{
        struct arm_pmu *armpmu = to_arm_pmu(ctx->pmu);

        if (sched_in)
                armpmu->reset(armpmu);
}

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-29  6:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-07  6:25 [PATCH V5 0/7] arm64/perf: Enable branch stack sampling Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 1/7] arm64/perf: Add BRBE registers and fields Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07 15:15   ` Mark Brown
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 2/7] arm64/perf: Update struct arm_pmu for BRBE Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-09 11:30   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2022-11-18  6:39     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-18 17:47       ` Mark Rutland
2022-11-29  6:06         ` Anshuman Khandual [this message]
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 3/7] arm64/perf: Update struct pmu_hw_events " Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 4/7] driver/perf/arm_pmu_platform: Add support for BRBE attributes detection Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-18 18:01   ` Mark Rutland
2022-11-21  6:36     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-21 11:39       ` Mark Rutland
2022-11-28  8:24         ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 5/7] arm64/perf: Drive BRBE from perf event states Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-18 18:15   ` Mark Rutland
2022-11-29  6:26     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 6/7] arm64/perf: Add BRBE driver Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-09  3:08   ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-16 16:42   ` James Clark
2022-11-17  5:45     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-17 10:09       ` James Clark
2022-11-18  6:14         ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-29 15:53   ` James Clark
2022-11-30  4:49     ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-11-30 16:56       ` James Clark
2022-12-06 17:05       ` James Clark
2022-11-07  6:25 ` [PATCH V5 7/7] arm64/perf: Enable branch stack sampling Anshuman Khandual

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