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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Ahern" <daahern@cisco.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] perf tools: Add reference timestamp to perf header
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:35:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1292261716.6803.332.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101213172216.GB7417@ghostprotocols.net>

On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 15:22 -0200, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > No, the last one already happened, you cannot postpone the last one,
> > there will always be another excuse.
> 
> Did you understand the use case? How to have multiple reference times
> when appending?

Yes, I understood it perfectly, I just detest the existence of these
pure user records, they need to die ASAP.

> "last one" means adding a multiplexor, PERF_RECORD_LAST_ONE if you will,
> and inside it we add new events if the need arises. Then never again we
> add a PERF_RECORD_ event in userspace. 

Nah, that sucks too, the whole concept of pure user-space events in that
stream sucks.

There's multiple things you can do, you could:

 - create a kernel event PERF_RECORD_NEW_BUFFER and stuff that into each
fresh buffer when its created, it could contain all kinds of 1-time
information, like:
	* this CLOCK_MONOTONIC offset (for what little good that does, since
our clock isn't strictly sync'ed to CLOCK_MONOTONIC so we can incur
arbitrary drift).
 	* architecture details, like 64/32 host info needed for the
PERF_SAMPLE_REGS stuff.

 - extend the existing header infrastructure to write a new header in
front of the new stream. The main header already has a data section that
points to the end of the stream, add a continuation header section that
points to a continuation-header used to appends and record the clock
offset data in there.

 - something else entirely.

Just stop using these stupid fake events and be somewhat creative.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-13 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-08  1:54 [PATCH 0/2] perf tools: add reference timestamp and use it in time history dump David Ahern
2010-12-08  1:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf tools: Add reference timestamp to perf header David Ahern
2010-12-12 20:16   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 13:15     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 16:58       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 14:39     ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-13 15:54       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 16:48         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 17:09           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 17:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:13               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:23                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 17:37                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:50                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 17:15               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 17:18                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:22                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 17:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-12-13 17:43                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 17:51                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 18:05                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 18:10                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:47                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:49                         ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-13 17:57                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 18:01                             ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-13 18:06                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 18:20                                 ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-13 19:08                               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 19:15                                 ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-13 19:22                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 19:17                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:48                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:14             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 17:36           ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-13 17:51             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-08  1:54 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf tools: Add option to show time history of event samples David Ahern
2010-12-08 21:06   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-12 21:32   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-09 17:18 ` [PATCH 0/2] perf tools: add reference timestamp and use it in time history dump Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-12 21:39   ` Frederic Weisbecker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-29 23:07 [PATCH 0/2] perf tools: reference timestamp and " David Ahern
2010-11-29 23:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf tools: add reference timestamp to perf header David Ahern

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