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From: "David Wang" <00107082@163.com>
To: "Namhyung Kim" <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	mingo@redhat.com, acme@kernel.org,  mark.rutland@arm.com,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,  jolsa@kernel.org,
	irogers@google.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
	 linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Regression or Fix]perf: profiling stats sigificantly changed for aio_write/read(ext4) between 6.7.0-rc1 and 6.6.0
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 09:46:42 +0800 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1da1b7f.564.18be01bd6ce.Coremail.00107082@163.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM9d7cg-tudzG4iPMHs5L-zYMe-WhyzZXN9eOtkoapS1n7t8AA@mail.gmail.com>


At 2023-11-18 05:11:02, "Namhyung Kim" <namhyung@kernel.org> wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 8:09 PM David Wang <00107082@163.com> wrote:
>>

>>
>>
>> From the data I collected, I think two problem could be observed for f06cc667f79909e9175460b167c277b7c64d3df0
>> 1. sample missing.
>> 2. sample unstable, total sample count drift a lot between tests.
>
>Hmm.. so the fio process was running in the background during
>the profiling, right?  But I'm not sure how you measured the same
>amount of time.  Probably you need to run this (for 10 seconds):
>
>  sudo perf record -a -G mytest -- sleep 10
>
>And I guess you don't run the perf command in the target cgroup
>which is good.
>

Yes  profiling process was not in the target cgroup.
I use  fio with `fio --randrepeat=1 --ioengine=libaio --direct=1 --name=test  --bs=4k --iodepth=64 --size=1G --readwrite=randrw  --runtime=600 --numjobs=4 --time_based=1` which would run 600 seconds.
There would be drifts in the profiling report between runs,  from those small  samples of test data I collected, maybe not enough to make a firm conclusion,  I feel when the commit is reverted, the expectation for total sample count is higher and the standard deviation is smaller.

>And is there any chance if it's improved because of the change?
>Are the numbers in 6.7 better or worse?
>
I have no idea whether the change of expected total sample count a bug or a fix,  but,  the observed result that total sample count drift a lot (bigger standard deviation), I think ,  is a bad thing. 
 

Thanks
David Wang

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-18  1:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-14  4:31 [Regression or Fix]perf: profiling stats sigificantly changed for aio_write/read(ext4) between 6.7.0-rc1 and 6.6.0 David Wang
2023-11-14 15:20 ` David Wang
2023-11-15 10:32   ` [Regression " Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-15 10:59     ` David Wang
2023-11-15 15:48       ` Namhyung Kim
2023-11-15 16:11         ` David Wang
2023-11-15 16:26           ` Namhyung Kim
2023-11-16  4:08             ` David Wang
2023-11-17 21:11               ` Namhyung Kim
2023-11-18  1:46                 ` David Wang [this message]
2023-11-20 22:59                   ` Namhyung Kim
2023-11-21  5:51                     ` David Wang
2023-11-15 15:45     ` Namhyung Kim
2023-11-15 16:24       ` David Wang

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