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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>
To: "David S. Ahern" <daahern@cisco.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] perf tools: Add reference timestamp to perf header
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 15:51:18 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101213175118.GD7417@ghostprotocols.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D0659A7.9030608@cisco.com>

Em Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:36:39AM -0700, David S. Ahern escreveu:
> 
> 
> On 12/13/10 09:48, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > Em Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 04:54:56PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker escreveu:
> >> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 07:39:24AM -0700, David S. Ahern wrote:
> >>> Simplest to always add it the header as it does no harm if not used.
> >>> To make it conditional means adding an input parameter to
> >>> perf_session__new() and then updating all the callers.
> > 
> >>> Is the preference to make it conditional?
> > 
> >> No, I suspect the overhead is plain unnoticeable. And if it becomes
> >> any problem one day, we can still make that conditional later.
> > 
> > Right, but it just ocurred to me, can't we encode this in the file stat?
> 
> I would not want to rely on stat output for timestamps. eg., copy that
> file off box and not have the timestamp preserved.

Yeah, I should have deleted that part, as I suggested something else
after it :-\

> > Also, how do we deal with:
> > 
> > $ perf record --help
> > <SNIP>
> >        -A, --append
> >            Append to the output file to do incremental profiling.
> > <SNIP>
> > 
> > ?
> 
> Is it realistic to expect/allow an append using different perf binaries?
> That just seems plain odd. Then, if one invocation used --timehist and
> another did not output would be bizarre. Of course an append with a

Well, if you use the existence of a ref time and refuse to append to a
file if --timehist is not used, nope.

> reboot between tests would cause problems as well.

Why different perf binaries? Isn't the following scenario valid?

1. perf record --timehist

<stop recording for a while, wait some other time when we know something
 interesting may happen, some periodic higher load that happens,
 whatever>

2. perf record -A --timehist

3. use perf report showing the wall clock time and merge it with your
app specific log

- Arnaldo

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-13 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-08  1:54 [PATCH 0/2] perf tools: add reference timestamp and use it in time history dump David Ahern
2010-12-08  1:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf tools: Add reference timestamp to perf header David Ahern
2010-12-12 20:16   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 13:15     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 16:58       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 14:39     ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-13 15:54       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 16:48         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 17:09           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 17:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:13               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:23                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 17:37                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:50                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 17:15               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 17:18                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:22                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 17:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:43                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 17:51                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 18:05                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-13 18:10                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:47                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:49                         ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-13 17:57                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 18:01                             ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-13 18:06                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 18:20                                 ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-13 19:08                               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 19:15                                 ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-13 19:22                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 19:17                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:48                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 17:14             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-13 17:36           ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-13 17:51             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2010-12-08  1:54 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf tools: Add option to show time history of event samples David Ahern
2010-12-08 21:06   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-12 21:32   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-09 17:18 ` [PATCH 0/2] perf tools: add reference timestamp and use it in time history dump Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-12-12 21:39   ` Frederic Weisbecker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-29 23:07 [PATCH 0/2] perf tools: reference timestamp and " David Ahern
2010-11-29 23:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf tools: add reference timestamp to perf header David Ahern

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