From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Milian Wolff <mail@milianw.de>
Cc: linux-perf-users <linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Perf event for Wall-time based sampling?
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:23:50 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140918132350.GE2770@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2221771.b2oSN5LR6X@milian-kdab2>
Em Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 02:32:10PM +0200, Milian Wolff escreveu:
> Hello,
>
> is it somehow possible to use perf based on some kernel timer? I'd like to get
Try with tracepoints or with probe points combined with callchains
instead of using a hardware counter.
- Arnaldo
> an overview of where a userspace application is spending time, both on-CPU as
> well as waiting off-CPU. E.g. something similar to using GDB as a poor-mans
> profiler and regularly interrupting the process and investigating the
> callgraphs. This is quite efficient for a high-level overview when you want to
> figure out where time is spent, unrelated to how it was actually spent (cpu,
> thread locks, io wait, ...).
>
> E.g. what event would I use for a simple application like this:
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> #include <unistd.h>
>
> int main()
> {
> sleep(10);
> return 0;
> }
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Which perf event would show me that most of the time is spent sleeping? I
> tried something like this to no avail:
>
> $ perf record --call-graph dwarf -e cpu-clock -F 100 ./a.out
> [ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ]
> [ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.007 MB perf.data (~304 samples) ]
> perf report --stdio
> Error:
> The perf.data file has no samples!
> # To display the perf.data header info, please use --header/--header-only
> options.
>
> I read https://perf.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Tutorial#Profiling_sleep_times
> and tried it out. The result is odd, as I get the "same" backtrace multiple
> times, all with 100% cost:
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 100.00% 0.00% 0 a.out libc-2.19.so [.]
> __GI___libc_nanosleep
> |
> --- __GI___libc_nanosleep
>
> 100.00% 0.00% 0 a.out [kernel.kallsyms] [k]
> system_call_fastpath
> |
> --- system_call_fastpath
> __GI___libc_nanosleep
>
> 100.00% 0.00% 0 a.out [kernel.kallsyms] [k]
> sys_nanosleep
> |
> --- sys_nanosleep
> system_call_fastpath
> __GI___libc_nanosleep
>
> 100.00% 0.00% 0 a.out [kernel.kallsyms] [k]
> hrtimer_nanosleep
> |
> --- hrtimer_nanosleep
> sys_nanosleep
> system_call_fastpath
> __GI___libc_nanosleep
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> And generally, this would *only* profile sleep time and would ignore the on-
> CPU time (and maybe thread waits) and so forth.
>
> Is there a technical reason on why it is not possible to use a plain timer as
> a sampling event? If I'm not mistaken, then Intel VTune actually uses a
> similar technique for its simple profiling modes which can already give
> extremely useful data - both to find CPU hotspots as well as locks&waits.
>
> Bye
> --
> Milian Wolff
> mail@milianw.de
> http://milianw.de
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-18 13:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-18 12:32 Perf event for Wall-time based sampling? Milian Wolff
2014-09-18 13:23 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2014-09-18 13:41 ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-18 14:51 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-18 15:26 ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-18 15:57 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-18 16:37 ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-18 19:17 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-18 19:31 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-18 20:17 ` David Ahern
2014-09-18 20:36 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-18 20:39 ` David Ahern
2014-09-19 8:11 ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-19 9:08 ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-19 14:47 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-19 15:04 ` David Ahern
2014-09-19 15:05 ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-19 14:17 ` David Ahern
2014-09-19 14:39 ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-19 14:55 ` David Ahern
2014-09-19 5:59 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-09-19 14:33 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-09-19 14:53 ` Milian Wolff
2014-09-19 15:50 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-09-22 7:56 ` Namhyung Kim
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