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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Carl Love <cel@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Brendan Gregg <brendan.d.gregg@gmail.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	"linux-perf-use." <linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Perf support for interpreted and Just-In-Time translated olanguages
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:09:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141210180911.GC6759@two.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1418233295.4953.33.camel@oc0276584878.ibm.com>

> This may be more complex then needed.  We really just need to track the
> symbol.  From talking with the Java experts, they say the reused memory
> is almost always from methods that are loaded/used early when
> initializing the program.  Then the memory gets reused by a method that
> runs for the bulk of the time.  So by getting a timestamp for when the
> symbol was loaded you can then determine the length of time each symbol
> was in the anonymous memory.  Then just associate the sample with the
> symbol that was present in the anonymous memory the longest.  You can
> also tag the symbol names to say that they reside in the same memory,
> ie, the memory was reused. To warn the user that there maybe some
> ambiguity in the sample to symbol association.  

We need a way to transfer the code too. Just symbols is not enough.
This needs exact tracking.

> The source file and line number information is optionally available from
> the jvm via the jvmti complied method load callback.  With this
> information on the symbol, line number and source file, perf could then
> persist the data in an ELF formatted file. 

I'm not sure ELF/dwarf is the right way to go there. That would be very
complex. 

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-10 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-05 20:18 Perf support for interpreted and Just-In-Time translated languages Carl Love
2014-12-05 21:27 ` Brendan Gregg
2014-12-09 20:34   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-12-09 22:01     ` Andi Kleen
2014-12-09 22:22       ` Perf support for interpreted and Just-In-Time translated olanguages Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-12-10  0:38         ` Andi Kleen
2014-12-10 17:41           ` Carl Love
2014-12-10 18:09             ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2014-12-10 19:21             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-12-10 19:19           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-12-10 17:32         ` Andi Kleen
2014-12-10 17:39           ` David Ahern
2014-12-10 18:05             ` Andi Kleen
2014-12-10 18:27               ` David Ahern
2014-12-10 19:43                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-01-09 20:19                   ` Carl Love
2015-01-10  4:15                     ` William Cohen
2015-01-10 15:14                       ` David Ahern
2015-01-12 17:22                         ` Carl Love
2015-01-12 17:58                           ` David Ahern
2015-01-12 18:43                             ` Carl Love
2015-01-20 18:19                             ` Carl Love
2015-01-20 19:29                               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-01-20 20:34                                 ` Carl Love
2015-01-20 20:52                                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-01-23  8:25                               ` Sujoy Saraswati
2014-12-10  7:55     ` Perf support for interpreted and Just-In-Time translated languages Pekka Enberg

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