From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: Milian Wolff <milian.wolff@kdab.com>,
linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: measuring system wide CPU usage ignoring idle process
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 16:12:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171123151205.GA8342@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171123144220.GB8789@kernel.org>
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:42:20AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 03:21:00PM +0100, Jiri Olsa escreveu:
> > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 03:09:31PM +0100, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 02:40:36PM +0100, Milian Wolff wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 12:44:38 AM CET Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 09:24:42PM +0100, Milian Wolff wrote:
> > > > > > On Montag, 20. November 2017 15:29:08 CET Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 03:00:46PM +0100, Milian Wolff wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hey all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > colleagues of mine just brought this inconvenient perf stat behavior
> > > > > > > > to my
> > > > > > > > attention:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > $ perf stat -a -e cpu-clock,task-clock,cycles,instructions sleep 1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Performance counter stats for 'system wide':
> > > > > > > > 4004.501439 cpu-clock (msec) # 4.000 CPUs
> > > > > > > > utilized
> > > > > > > > 4004.526474 task-clock (msec) # 4.000 CPUs
> > > > > > > > utilized
> > > > > > > > 945,906,029 cycles # 0.236 GHz
> > > > > > > > 461,861,241 instructions # 0.49 insn per
> > > > > > > > cycle
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1.001247082 seconds time elapsed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This shows that cpu-clock and task-clock are incremented also for the
> > > > > > > > idle
> > > > > > > > processes. Is there some trick to exclude that time, such that the CPU
> > > > > > > > utilization drops below 100% when doing `perf stat -a`?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I dont think it's the idle process you see, I think it's the managing
> > > > > > > overhead before the 'sleep 1' task goes actualy to sleep
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > there's some user space code before it gets into the sleep syscall,
> > > > > > > and there's some possible kernel scheduling/syscall/irq code with
> > > > > > > events already enabled and counting
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry for being unclear: I was talking about the task-clock and cpu-clock
> > > > > > values which you omitted from your measurements below. My example also
> > > > > > shows that the counts for cycles and instructions are fine. But the
> > > > > > cpu-clock and task-clock are useless as they always sum up to essentially
> > > > > > `$nproc*$runtime`. What I'm hoping for are fractional values for the "N
> > > > > > CPUs utilized".
> > > > > ugh my bad.. anyway by using -a you create cpu counters
> > > > > which never unschedule, so those times will be same
> > > > > as the 'sleep 1' run length
>
> Humm, what role perf_event_attr.exclude_idle has here?
it's used for omiting samples from idle process.. but looks
like it's enforced for software clock events
AFAICS it's not used in counting mode
jirka
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-23 15:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-20 14:00 measuring system wide CPU usage ignoring idle process Milian Wolff
2017-11-20 14:29 ` Jiri Olsa
2017-11-20 20:24 ` Milian Wolff
2017-11-20 23:44 ` Jiri Olsa
2017-11-23 13:40 ` Milian Wolff
2017-11-23 14:09 ` Jiri Olsa
2017-11-23 14:21 ` Jiri Olsa
2017-11-23 14:42 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2017-11-23 15:12 ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2017-11-23 18:59 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2017-11-24 8:14 ` Jiri Olsa
2017-11-23 15:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-17 13:41 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
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