From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Wander Lairson Costa <wander@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/3] sched/task: Add the put_task_struct_atomic_safe() function
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 22:16:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230504201614.GB4164@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAq0SUkJ40OeS3cRzhK3voGquJ1AFahYoyQ1fgWS+N=DkOQpig@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Wander,
I certainly missed something ;) plus I am already sleeping. but let me try to
reply anyway.
On 05/04, Wander Lairson Costa wrote:
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:23 PM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 05/04, Wander Lairson Costa wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 12:23 PM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but as Sebastian explained CONFIG_PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING won't like it.
> > > >
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/Y+zFNrCjBn53%2F+Q2@linutronix.de/
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think that was my confusion in that thread. My understanding is that
> > > CONFIG_PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING will check lock ordering but not
> > > context.
> >
> > Sorry, I don't understand... perhaps I missed something. But iiuc
> > the problem is simple.
> >
> > So, this code
> >
> > raw_spin_lock(one);
> > spin_lock(two);
> >
> > is obviously wrong if CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT.
> >
> > Without PREEMPT_RT this code is fine because raw_spinlock_t and spinlock_t
> > are the same thing. Except they have different lockdep annotations if
> > CONFIG_PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING is true, LD_WAIT_SPIN and LD_WAIT_CONFIG.
> >
> > So if CONFIG_PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING is set, lockdep will complain even
> > on the !PREEMPT_RT kernel, iow it checks the nesting as if the code runs
> > on with PREEMPT_RT.
> >
> > Cough... not sure my explanation can help ;) It looks very confusing when
> > I read it.
> >
>
> Thanks for the explanation. That's my understanding too. The part I
> don't get is why this would fail with a call_rcu() inside
> put_task_struct().
the problem is that call_rcu() won't be called if !IS_ENABLED(PREEMPT_RT),
___put_task_struct() will be called.
CONFIG_PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING can't know this can't happen if PREEMPT_RT
is set.
IOW. To simplify, suppose we have
// can be called in atomic context, e.g. under
// raw_spin_lock() so it is wrong with PREEMPT_RT
void __put_task_struct(struct task_struct *tsk)
{
spin_lock(some_lock);
}
lets "fix" the code above, lets change __put_task_struct,
void __put_task_struct(struct task_struct *tsk)
{
if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT))
return;
spin_lock(some_lock);
}
Now, if CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT is true then __put_task_struct() is fine
wrt lock nesting.
But, if CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT is not set, then __put_task_struct() still
does the same:
void __put_task_struct(struct task_struct *tsk)
{
spin_lock(some_lock);
}
and CONFIG_PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING will complain. Because, once again,
it checks the nesting as if CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT is true, and in this case
__put_task_struct() if it is called under raw_spin_lock().
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-04 20:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-25 11:43 [PATCH v7 0/3] Introduce put_task_struct_atomic_sleep() Wander Lairson Costa
2023-04-25 11:43 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] sched/core: warn on call put_task_struct in invalid context Wander Lairson Costa
2023-04-28 16:17 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-05-02 14:46 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-04-25 11:43 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] sched/task: Add the put_task_struct_atomic_safe() function Wander Lairson Costa
2023-05-04 8:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-04 9:32 ` Valentin Schneider
2023-05-04 12:24 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-05-04 12:24 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-05-04 12:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-04 14:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-04 14:55 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-05-04 15:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-04 15:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-05 13:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-04 18:29 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-05-04 19:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-04 19:38 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-05-04 20:16 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2023-05-08 12:30 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-05-04 15:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-04 18:21 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-05-05 13:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-05 14:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-05 14:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-08 12:28 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-04-25 11:43 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] treewide: replace put_task_struct() with the atomic safe version Wander Lairson Costa
2023-04-26 12:05 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] Introduce put_task_struct_atomic_sleep() Valentin Schneider
2023-04-26 17:44 ` Waiman Long
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