From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435DEC7EE29 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2023 01:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230044AbjFJBUe (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jun 2023 21:20:34 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:33736 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229528AbjFJBUd (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jun 2023 21:20:33 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-x52e.google.com (mail-pg1-x52e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52e]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 767A130F2 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2023 18:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x52e.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-5445ef3ef1eso1262680a12.2 for ; Fri, 09 Jun 2023 18:20:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; t=1686360031; x=1688952031; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=D/bmegFESSAApCqDdnEAielRRibxjNBPRiCDE3DA8lw=; b=jHvDFR6kYXh80JC9eULwl/zj2STmYAFAzkKnqYanBcQbBWj3dJR4+WCBJwkT6urS6W ZUYLCx3ciSA4O9SBVHHS3g6y9xEvFIGPz4vcn7JTJ/Mz58nNYzNWPriO5i9tUAfbG1Yz 67e8naAZpbw9Z72It+NJPyxmumb2GF5AyF3T+VqxAQH7LHxBv3Pl4kvco61vT7UYOYdc hgjD63VDsdDkfcWhT+cA+iO1COLHX64ALZvkY7u+WuzOZUAbgguPP8o5c722RpqVyW7h wP5pXhcznBo5EwjuhttHpyPtedKhNcO0d9VxG4Hu9ld9QIx06kqLzFQYXzIy5TpSmrkG v18Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1686360031; x=1688952031; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=D/bmegFESSAApCqDdnEAielRRibxjNBPRiCDE3DA8lw=; b=Rkw0V2n1RfYv+k9c27Q26htGSwzP97E4WP6z2YzurmIyjp1J8w3jXaggLXfIIVdPOy zTQfeStsh8ktvw2xTm61lZ1mOzpVoffBQ4J3rLg5LhlhibLAk3stBGriJGusWVe0jw4M 5M8eXzmCeGmnc0jjM8jwzZJ5IHH661dtKfwhpUD7PK+IQw7UOODtcr1j6vlOZCdbiUiP DSlSS1oAJkd1k7tch79fmcauo+VFcOQcdLC8tLDk58L32fFehndtAxVloYe6dpK21aM+ XarnFpKart1iBKUr6ccysIJJfA7eGOtrwceTFB5sK5S+EpjA8FVqHbIWKW5wJ6UJv1qO ZEMw== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDxdyZQiYGeSEZ42GihlN6arfAtNSDVZInB3XMaH72gWo22K83d7 +LjCVrHdMJst1tArXmL7wnpTvA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ4KBSke2iBZa+MPXMvoq9+3zaH1aAi/q3pr2imUy5kacQKczoOET10wqb7HLcOz675SNucZ7Q== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:7350:b0:10d:5430:c8d6 with SMTP id v16-20020a056a20735000b0010d5430c8d6mr3682430pzc.0.1686360030640; Fri, 09 Jun 2023 18:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leoy-huanghe ([156.59.39.102]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u21-20020a656715000000b00476d1385265sm3198809pgf.25.2023.06.09.18.20.23 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 09 Jun 2023 18:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 09:20:20 +0800 From: Leo Yan To: James Clark Cc: coresight@lists.linaro.org, denik@chromium.org, Suzuki K Poulose , Mike Leach , Peter Zijlstra , Ingo Molnar , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Mark Rutland , Alexander Shishkin , Jiri Olsa , Namhyung Kim , Ian Rogers , Adrian Hunter , John Garry , Will Deacon , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] perf cs-etm: Use previous thread for branch sample source IP Message-ID: <20230610012020.GA174906@leoy-huanghe> References: <20230524131958.2139331-1-james.clark@arm.com> <20230524131958.2139331-3-james.clark@arm.com> <20230527090635.GB886420@leoy-yangtze.lan> <630ab636-107d-4b12-5454-2ee91ad43543@arm.com> <1e7aa657-6d1e-9e7c-95cb-b32d307abe93@arm.com> <20230608102555.GB123723@leoy-huanghe> <2e075792-7af8-209b-082b-48d687387463@arm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2e075792-7af8-209b-082b-48d687387463@arm.com> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 12:00:27PM +0100, James Clark wrote: > On 08/06/2023 11:25, Leo Yan wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 10:34:42AM +0100, James Clark wrote: [...] > >>>>> @@ -616,6 +618,8 @@ static void cs_etm__packet_swap(struct cs_etm_auxtrace *etm, > >>>>> tmp = tidq->packet; > >>>>> tidq->packet = tidq->prev_packet; > >>>>> tidq->prev_packet = tmp; > >>>>> + thread__put(tidq->prev_thread); > >>>>> + tidq->prev_thread = thread__get(tidq->thread); > >>>> > >>>> Maybe cs_etm__packet_swap() is not the best place to update > >>>> "tidq->prev_thread", since swapping packet doesn't mean it's necessarily > >>>> thread switching; can we move this change into the cs_etm__set_thread()? > >>>> > >>> > >>> Yeah that might make more sense. I can move it there if we decide to > >>> keep this change. > >>> > >> > >> Unfortunately I don't think I can make this change. It seems like > >> putting the previous thread swap in cs_etm__set_thread() has different > >> semantics to keeping all the swaps together in cs_etm__packet_swap(). > > > > Thanks for trying this. > > > >> This is because if you swap the thread in cs_etm__packet_swap() the > >> previous packet and next packet can have the _same_ thread if there > >> happened to be no change. However if you only swap previous thread in > >> cs_etm__set_thread(), that means that the previous thread is always > >> different to the next one. This has a huge difference on the decoding > >> because two adjacent packets on the same thread will say they branched > >> from the previous thread that ran, not the previous thread on the > >> previous packet. > > > > Seems to me, this is a synchronization issue between the field > > 'tidq->prev_thread' and 'tidq->prev_packet'. > > > > It's still hard for me to understand "two adjacent packets on the same > > thread will say they branched from the previous thread that ran", IIUC, > > even we move thread swapping into cs_etm__set_thread(), if the two > > adjacent packets are in the same thread context, we can skip to update > > fields 'tidq->prev_thread' and 'tidq->prev_packet'. > > > > So I am curious if below cs_etm__set_thread() works or not? > > > > static void cs_etm__set_thread(struct cs_etm_auxtrace *etm, > > struct cs_etm_traceid_queue *tidq, pid_t tid) > > { > > struct machine *machine = &etm->session->machines.host; > > > > /* No context switching, bail out */ > > if ((tidq->thread->tid != tid) > > return; > > > > /* If tid is -1, we simply use idle thread context */ > > if (tid == -1) > > goto find_idle_thread; > > > > /* > > * The new incoming tid is different from current thread, > > * so it's to switch to the next thread context. > > */ > > > > /* Swap thread contexts */ > > thread__put(tidq->prev_thread); > > tidq->prev_thread = thread__get(tidq->thread); > > > > /* Find thread context for new tid */ > > thread__zput(tidq->thread); > > tidq->thread = machine__find_thread(machine, -1, tid); > > > > find_idle_thread: > > /* Couldn't find a known thread */ > > if (!tidq->thread) > > tidq->thread = machine__idle_thread(machine); > > } > > > > I tried this change but I still don't think it's giving the right > results. Tracking previous thread in cs_etm__set_thread() changes the > semantics of being "the thread for the previous packet" to being "the > previous different thread of an unknown old packet". If you imagine the > packets and thread changes are like this (where is a discontinuity > packet): > > <--thread 1--> <--thread 2-------------------> <------thread 3--> > <--packet 1--> <--packet 2--> <--packet 4--> > > Branches are generated using the last IP of the previous packet, and the > first IP of the next packet, ignoring everything in between as they are > just sequential instructions. > > So assuming there are discontinuity packets between the thread switches > we should get: > > thread 1 branches from packet 1 to 0x0 > thread 2 branches from 0x0 to packet 2 > thread 2 branches from packet 2 to packet 3 > thread 2 branches from packet 3 to 0x0 > thread 3 branches from 0x0 to packet 4 > > By tracking the previous thread for each packet, packet 2 and 3 stay in > thread 2. > > If we track the previous thread instead, then both packet 2 and 3 would > continue to look like they branch from thread 1 like this: > > thread ? branches from packet 1 to 0x0 > thread 1 branches from 0x0 to packet 2 > thread 1 branches from packet 2 to packet 3 > thread 1 branches from packet 3 to 0x0 > thread 2 branches from 0x0 to packet 4 Thanks a lot for writing very details, James! Now it's much clear for me to understand the issue. > Everything gets shifted back by 1 thread. I don't see the issue of > keeping all the swap stuff together in one place. Maybe there is an > issue with the naming of prev_thread? It's not really the previous > thread, it's the previous _packets_ thread. It might be the same thread > as the current one if there was no switch: Agreed. It makes sense for me to rename the thread variable as "prev_packet_thread", this would be better for reflecting the purpose. Here you are trying to change how to track thread contexts: rather than tracking thread context as a global variable and sharing it cross packets, we track the thread context as an associated info for every packet to avoid any mismatching between packets and threads (e.g. caused by discontinuity packets). My feeling is this part would be a bit difficult for maintenance, maybe you could add a comment when spin a new patch? Thanks! Leo > diff --git a/tools/perf/util/cs-etm.c b/tools/perf/util/cs-etm.c > index ca01109c3fc4..f3c73c86010a 100644 > --- a/tools/perf/util/cs-etm.c > +++ b/tools/perf/util/cs-etm.c > @@ -86,8 +86,8 @@ struct cs_etm_traceid_queue { > size_t last_branch_pos; > union perf_event *event_buf; > struct thread *thread; > - struct thread *prev_thread; > - ocsd_ex_level prev_el; > + struct thread *prev_packet_thread; > + ocsd_ex_level prev_packet_el; > ocsd_ex_level el; > struct branch_stack *last_branch; > > > Thanks, > > Leo